Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1422691AbXBAImT (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Feb 2007 03:42:19 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1422693AbXBAImT (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Feb 2007 03:42:19 -0500 Received: from mx.laposte.net ([81.255.54.11]:38850 "EHLO mx.laposte.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1422691AbXBAImS (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Feb 2007 03:42:18 -0500 Message-ID: <54850.192.54.193.51.1170319212.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <20070131234450.GB32078@kroah.com> References: <32793.192.54.193.51.1170248792.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <20070131201258.GB15128@kroah.com> <20070131230014.GD20514@thunk.org> <20070131234450.GB32078@kroah.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 09:40:12 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Free Linux Driver Development! From: "Nicolas Mailhot" To: "Greg KH" Cc: "Theodore Tso" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-4.fc6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1722 Lines: 38 Le Jeu 1 février 2007 00:44, Greg KH a écrit : > On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 06:00:15PM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: >> More specifically, Dave said that it "seemed rude" to just take the >> driver and send updates, but maybe the best way of dealing with >> out-of-tree drivers like lirc is to treat the out-of-tree drivers as a >> kind of spec release, and just have someone in the community forcibly >> take the code, fix it up, and then get it merged. Maybe it's being >> "rude", but so is not responding to requests to get it merged. > > No, I'm going by Linus's rule here, if a person doesn't want their code > in the kernel tree, then I'm not going to forcefully put it there. > That's just being rude. Well, reengineering nvidia/ati DRM is rude to ati/nvidia, so was creating tigon3, so was rewriting from scratch the GPL drivers some ATA vendors published in the past, so was spurning the SATA/SAS stack adaptec offered... Does politeness extend to accepting some devices will never see in-tree drivers because someone wrote a GPL out-of-tree driver first (and refuses to push it)? People are more squeamish about using an out-of-tree driver as reference instead of leaked specs or rev-engeneered windows drivers (despite out-of-tree drivers being under the GPL ie with authorisation do do whatever people want with the code). If the answer is no, then there is a big pile of device documentation (in the form of source code) waiting to be used. -- Nicolas Mailhot - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/