Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1422814AbXBALqn (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Feb 2007 06:46:43 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1422825AbXBALqn (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Feb 2007 06:46:43 -0500 Received: from tmailer.gwdg.de ([134.76.10.23]:52499 "EHLO tmailer.gwdg.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1422814AbXBALqm (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Feb 2007 06:46:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 12:43:56 +0100 (MET) From: Jan Engelhardt To: Lee Revell cc: Theodore Tso , Greg KH , Nicolas Mailhot , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Free Linux Driver Development! In-Reply-To: <75b66ecd0701311559u2c1f44f9t685b3054802d9cc3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <32793.192.54.193.51.1170248792.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <20070131201258.GB15128@kroah.com> <20070131230014.GD20514@thunk.org> <75b66ecd0701311559u2c1f44f9t685b3054802d9cc3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Report: Content analysis: 0.0 points, 6.0 required _SUMMARY_ Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1250 Lines: 30 On Jan 31 2007 18:59, Lee Revell wrote: > On 1/31/07, Theodore Tso wrote: >> >> More specifically, Dave said that it "seemed rude" to just take the >> driver and send updates, but maybe the best way of dealing with >> out-of-tree drivers like lirc is to treat the out-of-tree drivers as a >> kind of spec release, and just have someone in the community forcibly >> take the code, fix it up, and then get it merged. > > But if the maintainer is unwilling to work with the kernel developers, > the driver won't get bugfixes or updates for new hardware. Talk about util-linux and rpm, whose maintainers were/are unwilling to give back the project to those who would really like to work on it. At least I don't differentiate between userspace and kernelspace when it comes to "hijacking projects back for the better". foobar is left where it is, and is commonly forked into foobar-ng. It's just naming. Just pull in lirc and tag it lirc-ng. Jan -- ft: http://freshmeat.net/p/chaostables/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/