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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id d11si6124744edm.263.2022.01.15.09.25.49; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 09:26:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=k20201202 header.b=r1cXYfpS; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S232592AbiAOGVj (ORCPT + 99 others); Sat, 15 Jan 2022 01:21:39 -0500 Received: from ams.source.kernel.org ([145.40.68.75]:44514 "EHLO ams.source.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229995AbiAOGVi (ORCPT ); Sat, 15 Jan 2022 01:21:38 -0500 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ams.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3EDFB81157; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 06:21:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7D2E1C36AE3; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 06:21:35 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1642227695; bh=7ZfCO0t0Hb+purY0IaMWCR91hXK2F+rG3x9Yw5xLqlc=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=r1cXYfpSkWwEAaBRpkTmMPHfA4+6vMwyFmzs61PBfVmIgjlstvcMgaRAZ9/a5xOIU WG3tZi/RDPeh8lfUV+B0/fteFGU9R88Isk80ilzrfZLlLUcuo10X7ttm2cZP+qjMoG nQmjLq9Zpc5RzdHodL5rZZLkqgwKT8NsmGdGCbNWA8o2ngZr4hSODtekrwPEC2ytJP T5qHjtYXy35/gpZUQoISt18I1ZnkkXRNxG/CLKt9xHsdhVLDWIFUmghM00xzqNaVjO T9iAt2/EtLI/ivYi3dZs3jSsAqquDvwhAaVedSukc8Xjl4AXUpg9rqH5ZhzPzKtMy+ Qq1cH9MiK4Duw== Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 22:21:34 -0800 From: Eric Biggers To: Vitaly Chikunov Cc: Mimi Zohar , linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 4/5] ima: support fs-verity file digest based signatures Message-ID: References: <20211202215507.298415-1-zohar@linux.ibm.com> <20211202215507.298415-5-zohar@linux.ibm.com> <56c53b027ae8ae6909d38904bf089e73011657d7.camel@linux.ibm.com> <20220109204537.oueokvvkrkyy3ipq@altlinux.org> <20220115053101.36xoy2bc7ypozo6l@altlinux.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20220115053101.36xoy2bc7ypozo6l@altlinux.org> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 08:31:01AM +0300, Vitaly Chikunov wrote: > Eric, > > On Sun, Jan 09, 2022 at 01:07:18PM -0800, Eric Biggers wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 09, 2022 at 11:45:37PM +0300, Vitaly Chikunov wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 03:37:39PM -0800, Eric Biggers wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 10:35:00AM -0500, Mimi Zohar wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2021-12-02 at 14:07 -0800, Eric Biggers wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 04:55:06PM -0500, Mimi Zohar wrote: > > > > > > > case IMA_VERITY_DIGSIG: > > > > > > > - fallthrough; > > > > > > > + set_bit(IMA_DIGSIG, &iint->atomic_flags); > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > + /* > > > > > > > + * The IMA signature is based on a hash of IMA_VERITY_DIGSIG > > > > > > > + * and the fs-verity file digest, not directly on the > > > > > > > + * fs-verity file digest. Both digests should probably be > > > > > > > + * included in the IMA measurement list, but for now this > > > > > > > + * digest is only used for verifying the IMA signature. > > > > > > > + */ > > > > > > > + verity_digest[0] = IMA_VERITY_DIGSIG; > > > > > > > + memcpy(verity_digest + 1, iint->ima_hash->digest, > > > > > > > + iint->ima_hash->length); > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > + hash.hdr.algo = iint->ima_hash->algo; > > > > > > > + hash.hdr.length = iint->ima_hash->length; > > > > > > > > > > > > This is still wrong because the bytes being signed don't include the hash > > > > > > algorithm. Unless you mean for it to be implicitly always SHA-256? fs-verity > > > > > > supports SHA-512 too, and it may support other hash algorithms in the future. > > > > > > > > > > IMA assumes that the file hash algorithm and the signature algorithm > > > > > are the same. If they're not the same, for whatever reason, the > > > > > signature verification would simply fail. > > > > > > > > > > Based on the v2 signature header 'type' field, IMA can differentiate > > > > > between regular IMA file hash based signatures and fs-verity file > > > > > digest based signatures. The digest field (d-ng) in the IMA > > > > > meausrement list prefixes the digest with the hash algorithm. I'm > > > > > missing the reason for needing to hash fs-verity's file digest with > > > > > other metadata, and sign that hash rather than fs-verity's file digest > > > > > directly. > > > > > > > > Because if someone signs a raw hash, then they also implicitly sign the same > > > > hash value for all supported hash algorithms that produce the same length hash. > > > > > > Unless there is broken hash algorithm allowing for preimage attacks this > > > is irrelevant. If there is two broken algorithms allowing for collisions, > > > colliding hashes could be prepared even if algo id is hashed too. > > > > > > > Only one algorithm needs to be broken. For example, SM3 has the same hash > > length as SHA-256. If SM3 support were to be added to fs-verity, and if someone > > were to find a way to find an input that has a specific SM3 digest, then they > > could also make it match a specific SHA-256 digest. Someone might intend to > > sign a SHA-256 digest, but if they are only signing the raw 32 bytes of the > > digest, then they would also be signing the corresponding SM3 digest. That's > > why the digest that is signed *must* also include the algorithm used in the > > digest (not the algorithm(s) used in the signature, which is different). > > I think it will be beneficial if we pass hash algo id to the > akcipher_alg::verify. In fact, ecrdsa should only be used with streebog. > And perhaps, sm2 with sm3, pkcs1 with md/sha/sm3, and ecdsa with sha family > hashes. > I was going to reply to this thread again, but I got a bit distracted by everything else being broken. Yes, the kernel needs to be restricting which hash algorithms can be used with each public key algorithm, along the lines of what you said. I asked the BoringSSL maintainers for advice, and they confirmed that ECDSA just signs/verifies a raw hash, and in fact it *must* be a raw hash for it to be secure. This is a design flaw in ECDSA, which was fixed in newer algorithms such as EdDSA and SM2 as those have a hash built-in to the signature scheme. To mitigate it, the allowed hash algorithms must be restricted; in the case of ECDSA, that means to the SHA family (preferably excluding SHA-1). akcipher_alg::verify doesn't actually know which hash algorithm is used, except in the case of rsa-pkcs1pad where it is built into the name of the algorithm. So it can't check the hash algorithm. I believe it needs to happen in public_key_verify_signature() (and I'm working on a patch for that). Now, SM2 is different from ECDSA and ECRDSA in that it uses the modern design that includes the hash into the signature algorithm. This means that it must be used to sign/verify *data*, not a hash. (Well, you can sign/verify a hash, but SM2 will hash it again internally.) Currently, public_key_verify_signature() allows SM2 to be used to sign/verify a hash, skipping the SM2 internal hash, and IMA uses this. This is broken and must be removed, since it isn't actually the SM2 algorithm as specified anymore, but rather some homebrew thing with unknown security properties. (Well, I'm not confident about SM2, but homebrew is worse.) Adding fs-verity support to IMA also complicates things, as doing it naively would introduce an ambiguity about what is signed. Naively, the *data* that is signed (considering the hash as part of the signature algorithm) would be either the whole file, in the case of traditional IMA, or the fsverity_descriptor struct, in the case of IMA with fs-verity. However, a file could have contents which match an fsverity_descriptor struct; that would create an ambiguity. Assuming that it needs to be allowed that the same key can sign files for both traditional and fs-verity hashing, solving this problem will require a second hash. The easiest way to do this would be sign/verify the following struct: struct ima_file_id { u8 is_fsverity; u8 hash_algorithm; u8 hash[]; }; This would be the *data* that is signed/verified -- meaning that it would be hashed again as part of the signature algorithm (whether that hash is built-in to the signature algorithm, as is the case for modern algorithms, or handled by the caller as is the case for legacy algorithms). Note that both traditional and fs-verity hashes would need to use this same method for it to be secure; the kernel must not accept signatures using the old method at the same time. - Eric