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There was at least one fix > > already found for it and merged. > > Grr.. > > And that's exactly why it matters not about "being reviewed", but when > they were in linux-next etc. > > I've pulled this, but consider this a complaint. Things should not be > "reviewed" before the merge window. They should be ready and merged > and have actually seen some testing. > > Review is good. But nothing beats actually being out there and > actually seeing real-life testing (of course, linux-next probably > mostly gets build-testing, but what testing it gets is still better > than not being there). Understood, that gives me a better ballpark idea of when to defer things for a next release. Thanks for the feedback. Luis