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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id a70si3198780pge.165.2022.01.21.05.08.55; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 05:09:07 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=k20201202 header.b=KjtRmqcH; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1350514AbiASAtG (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 18 Jan 2022 19:49:06 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:57640 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1349367AbiASAtE (ORCPT ); Tue, 18 Jan 2022 19:49:04 -0500 Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [IPv6:2604:1380:4641:c500::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F4A2C061574; Tue, 18 Jan 2022 16:49:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4755B61484; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 00:49:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 76BA9C340E0; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 00:49:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1642553342; bh=fAebEo9D2w4bZ3VevQjkt0fPkJdGlFkA2aCUDz7lyzE=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=KjtRmqcHOKAuOt9I80FDebonvaFOaJrngWuTTScP+XNnNAotws3lH0U/gampjxUWF q3M5Q482tOyHvMnAKeYLquNNBBfV9V5GNgOempIa1JDK5uW8CNQuEkp5LP1+X5/HJs zWZKm6YTaQ9yICaLwJLz4JatnvO+oF1j6r1QdfDe/4dFrY9+Npf0e0l4f25XNEqPAR yUiurRYwR1IMqdZk5rzRYTn+a+5B115rq7nR+XoP+X8UCC2iPF4CaMhQV2f+rgZ33s iq4VUIxzmaQMIrjDmLGqKxhSm/7br54bnZP/8tmw4tgfsiEFfM/wlGFTZt0YRk8mJ/ UlI74ewK9GNZg== Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 16:49:01 -0800 From: Eric Biggers To: Stefan Berger Cc: Vitaly Chikunov , Mimi Zohar , linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 4/5] ima: support fs-verity file digest based signatures Message-ID: References: <20211202215507.298415-1-zohar@linux.ibm.com> <20211202215507.298415-5-zohar@linux.ibm.com> <56c53b027ae8ae6909d38904bf089e73011657d7.camel@linux.ibm.com> <20220109204537.oueokvvkrkyy3ipq@altlinux.org> <20220115053101.36xoy2bc7ypozo6l@altlinux.org> <7e611504-eed8-6943-f1ae-7fb23298d3e5@linux.ibm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <7e611504-eed8-6943-f1ae-7fb23298d3e5@linux.ibm.com> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 10:31:40PM -0500, Stefan Berger wrote: > > On 1/15/22 01:21, Eric Biggers wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 08:31:01AM +0300, Vitaly Chikunov wrote: > > > Eric, > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 09, 2022 at 01:07:18PM -0800, Eric Biggers wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jan 09, 2022 at 11:45:37PM +0300, Vitaly Chikunov wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 03:37:39PM -0800, Eric Biggers wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 10:35:00AM -0500, Mimi Zohar wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 2021-12-02 at 14:07 -0800, Eric Biggers wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 04:55:06PM -0500, Mimi Zohar wrote: > > > > > > > > > case IMA_VERITY_DIGSIG: > > > > > > > > > - fallthrough; > > > > > > > > > + set_bit(IMA_DIGSIG, &iint->atomic_flags); > > > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > > > + /* > > > > > > > > > + * The IMA signature is based on a hash of IMA_VERITY_DIGSIG > > > > > > > > > + * and the fs-verity file digest, not directly on the > > > > > > > > > + * fs-verity file digest. Both digests should probably be > > > > > > > > > + * included in the IMA measurement list, but for now this > > > > > > > > > + * digest is only used for verifying the IMA signature. > > > > > > > > > + */ > > > > > > > > > + verity_digest[0] = IMA_VERITY_DIGSIG; > > > > > > > > > + memcpy(verity_digest + 1, iint->ima_hash->digest, > > > > > > > > > + iint->ima_hash->length); > > > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > > > + hash.hdr.algo = iint->ima_hash->algo; > > > > > > > > > + hash.hdr.length = iint->ima_hash->length; > > > > > > > > This is still wrong because the bytes being signed don't include the hash > > > > > > > > algorithm. Unless you mean for it to be implicitly always SHA-256? fs-verity > > > > > > > > supports SHA-512 too, and it may support other hash algorithms in the future. > > > > > > > IMA assumes that the file hash algorithm and the signature algorithm > > > > > > > are the same. If they're not the same, for whatever reason, the > > > > > > > signature verification would simply fail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Based on the v2 signature header 'type' field, IMA can differentiate > > > > > > > between regular IMA file hash based signatures and fs-verity file > > > > > > > digest based signatures. The digest field (d-ng) in the IMA > > > > > > > meausrement list prefixes the digest with the hash algorithm. I'm > > > > > > > missing the reason for needing to hash fs-verity's file digest with > > > > > > > other metadata, and sign that hash rather than fs-verity's file digest > > > > > > > directly. > > > > > > Because if someone signs a raw hash, then they also implicitly sign the same > > > > > > hash value for all supported hash algorithms that produce the same length hash. > > > > > Unless there is broken hash algorithm allowing for preimage attacks this > > > > > is irrelevant. If there is two broken algorithms allowing for collisions, > > > > > colliding hashes could be prepared even if algo id is hashed too. > > > > > > > > > Only one algorithm needs to be broken. For example, SM3 has the same hash > > > > length as SHA-256. If SM3 support were to be added to fs-verity, and if someone > > > > were to find a way to find an input that has a specific SM3 digest, then they > > > > could also make it match a specific SHA-256 digest. Someone might intend to > > > > sign a SHA-256 digest, but if they are only signing the raw 32 bytes of the > > > > digest, then they would also be signing the corresponding SM3 digest. That's > > > > why the digest that is signed *must* also include the algorithm used in the > > > > digest (not the algorithm(s) used in the signature, which is different). > > > I think it will be beneficial if we pass hash algo id to the > > > akcipher_alg::verify. In fact, ecrdsa should only be used with streebog. > > > And perhaps, sm2 with sm3, pkcs1 with md/sha/sm3, and ecdsa with sha family > > > hashes. > > > > > I was going to reply to this thread again, but I got a bit distracted by > > everything else being broken. Yes, the kernel needs to be restricting which > > hash algorithms can be used with each public key algorithm, along the lines of > > what you said. I asked the BoringSSL maintainers for advice, and they confirmed > > that ECDSA just signs/verifies a raw hash, and in fact it *must* be a raw hash > > for it to be secure. This is a design flaw in ECDSA, which was fixed in newer > > algorithms such as EdDSA and SM2 as those have a hash built-in to the signature > > scheme. To mitigate it, the allowed hash algorithms must be restricted; in the > > case of ECDSA, that means to the SHA family (preferably excluding SHA-1). > > > > akcipher_alg::verify doesn't actually know which hash algorithm is used, except > > in the case of rsa-pkcs1pad where it is built into the name of the algorithm. > > So it can't check the hash algorithm. I believe it needs to happen in > > public_key_verify_signature() (and I'm working on a patch for that). > > > > Now, SM2 is different from ECDSA and ECRDSA in that it uses the modern design > > that includes the hash into the signature algorithm. This means that it must be > > used to sign/verify *data*, not a hash. (Well, you can sign/verify a hash, but > > SM2 will hash it again internally.) Currently, public_key_verify_signature() > > allows SM2 to be used to sign/verify a hash, skipping the SM2 internal hash, and > > IMA uses this. This is broken and must be removed, since it isn't actually the > > SM2 algorithm as specified anymore, but rather some homebrew thing with unknown > > security properties. (Well, I'm not confident about SM2, but homebrew is worse.) > > > > Adding fs-verity support to IMA also complicates things, as doing it naively > > would introduce an ambiguity about what is signed. Naively, the *data* that is > > signed (considering the hash as part of the signature algorithm) would be either > > the whole file, in the case of traditional IMA, or the fsverity_descriptor > > struct, in the case of IMA with fs-verity. However, a file could have contents > > which match an fsverity_descriptor struct; that would create an ambiguity. > > > > Assuming that it needs to be allowed that the same key can sign files for both > > traditional and fs-verity hashing, solving this problem will require a second > > hash. The easiest way to do this would be sign/verify the following struct: > > > > struct ima_file_id { > > u8 is_fsverity; > > u8 hash_algorithm; > > u8 hash[]; > > }; > > > To calrify, I suppose that for ECDSA NIST P256 you would allow pairing with > any of the SHA family hashes (also as defined by the existing OIDs) and as > the standard allows today? And the same then applies for NIST p384 etc.? > > Further, I suppose similar restriction would apply for ECRDSA to pair it > with Streebog only, as Vitaly said. I don't have any better ideas. > What's happening now is that to verify a signature, IMA/integrity subsystem > fills out the following structure: > > struct public_key_signature pks; > > pks.hash_algo = hash_algo_name[hdr->hash_algo];? // name of hash algo will > go into this here, e.g., 'sha256' > pks.pkey_algo = pk->pkey_algo; // this is either 'rsa', 'ecdsa-', 'ecrdsa-' > or 'sm2' string > > It then calls: > > ??? ret = verify_signature(key, &pks); > > IMO, in the call path down this function the pairing of public key and hash > algo would have to be enforced in order to enforce the standards. Would this > not be sufficient to be able to stay with the standards ? That sounds right, though there are a number of other issues including SM2 being implemented incorrectly, the "encoding" string isn't validated, and it not being enforced that public_key_signature::pkey_algo actually matches public_key::pkey_algo. > File hashes: IMA calculates the hash over a file itself by calling crypto > functions, so at least the digest's bytes are trusted input in that respect > and using the sha family type of hashes directly with ECDSA should work. > Which algorithm IMA is supposed to use for the hashing is given in the xattr > bytestream header. IMA could then take that type of hash, lookup the hash > function, perform the hashing on the data, and let verify_signature enforce > the pairing, rejecting file signatures with wrong pairing. This way the only > thing that is needed is 'enforcement of pairing'. > > Fsverity: How much control does a user have over the hash family fsverity is > using? Can IMA ECDSA/RSA users tell it to use a sha family hash and ECRDSA > users make it use a Streebog hash so that also the pairing of hash and key > type can work 'naturally' and we don't need the level of indirection via > your structure above? The hash algorithm used by fs-verity is configurable and is always returned along with the file digest. Currently, only SHA-256 and SHA-512 are supported. Keep in mind that if you sign the fs-verity file digest directly with RSA, ECDSA, or ECRDSA, the *data* you are actually signing is the fsverity_descriptor -- the struct which the hash is a hash of. That creates an ambiguity when full file hashes are also signed by the same key, as I previously mentioned. A level of indirection is needed to avoid that. In the naive method, the *data* being signed would also be different with SM2. The level of indirection would avoid that. - Eric