Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 14:39:32 +0300
From: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@openvz.org>
To: Duncan Sands <duncan.sands@math.u-psud.fr>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, adobriyan@gmail.com
Subject: Re: remove_proc_entry and read_proc
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On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 08:31:57AM +0100, Duncan Sands wrote:
> > I believe, barriers not needed, not now.

> > This scheme relies on the fact that remove_proc_entry() will be the only
> > place that will clear ->proc_fops and, once cleared, ->proc_fops will
> > never be resurrected. Clearing of ->proc_fops will eventually propagate
> > to CPU doing first check, thus preveting refcount bumps from this CPU.
> > What can be missed is some "rogue" readers or writers?. Big deal.
>
> I don't understand you.  Without memory barriers, remove_proc_entry will
> most of the time, but not all of the time, wait for all readers and writers
> to finish before exiting.  Since the whole point of your patch was to ensure
> that all readers and writers finish before remove_proc_entry exits, I don't
> understand why you don't just put the memory barriers in and make it correct.

Gee, thanks. I sat and wrote code side-by-side, and it looks like, even barriers
won't fix anything, because they don't affect other CPUs. There will be
new patch soon.

	->proc_fops is valid			->proc_fops is valid
	->pde_users is 0			->pde_users is 0
	------------------------------------------------------------


						if (!pde->proc_fops)
							goto out;

	->proc_fops = NULL;
	if (atomic_read(->pde_users) > 0)
		goto again;

		|
		|				atomic_inc(->pde_users);
		|
		|
		|
		V

> Also, I do consider it a big deal:
>
> > ? Sigh, modules should do removals of proc entries first. And I should
> > check for that.
>
> Modules should of course call remove_proc_entry before exiting.  However
> right now, even with your patch, a read or write method can still be
> running when remove_proc_entry returns [1], so could still be running when
> the module is removed (if they sleep; I guess this applies mostly to
> write methods).  This is very bad - why not put in memory barriers and
> fix it?  Also, plenty of proc read and write methods access private data
> that is allocated before calling create_proc_entry and freed after calling
> remove_proc_entry.  If a read or write method is still running after
> remove_proc_entry returns, then it can access freed memory - very bad.

> [1] proc_get_inode does a try_module_get, so it is possible that module
> unloading is not a problem - not sure.

Modules forget to set ->owner sometimes. Also, it's still racy, because
of the typical

	pde = create_proc_entry();
	/*
	 *
	 * ->owner is NULL here, effectively, PDE without ->owner.
	 *
	 */
	if (pde)
		pde->owner = THIS_MODULE;

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