Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932659AbXBEQ6o (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:58:44 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932451AbXBEQ6m (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:58:42 -0500 Received: from smtp.osdl.org ([65.172.181.24]:49492 "EHLO smtp.osdl.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751838AbXBEQ6k (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:58:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 08:58:10 -0800 (PST) From: Linus Torvalds To: Ingo Molnar cc: David Woodhouse , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: [patch] MTD: fix DOC2000/2001/2001PLUS build error In-Reply-To: <20070205163152.GA2464@elte.hu> Message-ID: References: <20070205084523.GA21858@elte.hu> <1170682488.29759.795.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <20070205155627.GA8354@elte.hu> <1170692539.29759.856.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <20070205162635.GA755@elte.hu> <20070205163152.GA2464@elte.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1355 Lines: 34 On Mon, 5 Feb 2007, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > but this is /only/ practical if all (even disabled) features are visible > (and selectable) in the tools. They are not at the moment, so selects > are quite useful. More importantly, some things that *are* visible probably shouldn't be, or should perhaps only be in expert mode (aka "EMBEDDED"). A prime example of this is all the firewall settings. I'd personally prefer to just select a "default firewall setup" which would be enough for all the normal crud, instead of seeing 50 different choices. And dammit, I'm supposed to be "technical". So if _I_ find it irritating to have to select all those NF_MATCH_xxx/NF_TARGET_xxx crud things, imagine what most people must feel like? Me, I'd like to say I want "default firewall built in", and not have to see *any* of the crap. And that's exactly why "select" is a good thing. Not using select, and have people having to say "y" to the basic feature and then y/m/n to each sub-feature is really damn annoying. So thank God for the few selects we have, and we should add a whole lot more! Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/