Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933496AbXBEVt5 (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:49:57 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S933498AbXBEVt4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:49:56 -0500 Received: from smtp.osdl.org ([65.172.181.24]:35158 "EHLO smtp.osdl.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S933496AbXBEVtz (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:49:55 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 13:49:38 -0800 (PST) From: Linus Torvalds To: David Woodhouse cc: Ingo Molnar , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: [patch] MTD: fix DOC2000/2001/2001PLUS build error In-Reply-To: <1170711587.29759.909.camel@pmac.infradead.org> Message-ID: References: <20070205084523.GA21858@elte.hu> <1170682488.29759.795.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <20070205155627.GA8354@elte.hu> <1170692539.29759.856.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <20070205162635.GA755@elte.hu> <20070205163152.GA2464@elte.hu> <1170710272.29759.894.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <1170711587.29759.909.camel@pmac.infradead.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1446 Lines: 40 On Mon, 5 Feb 2007, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 13:28 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > Right. Because for MOST scsi drivers, it's obvious that they are SCSI to > > the user. > > Really? Including the 'Scanner driver' card which arrived with my > scanner? Can you read? Can you UNDERSTAND? This is exactly my point. If it's not obviously a SCSI card, then it shouldn't be "depends on SCSI". It should be on its own and "select SCSI". The whole AND ALMOST ONLY point of "depends on" is really to allow people to do a shorthand or know that "ok, he gave us some information that makes this choice pointless". And yes, we've messed that up. But you're apparently arguing that the mess-up is something "good". "select" is _good_. Because it's the thing that avoids us having to ask totally inane questions THAT DO NOT MAKE SENSE to a user. It's totally idiotic that we should ask people for SCSI support. That's not a user question, unless we're talking "odd-ball obviously SCSI devices", and then the question actually makes sense as a way to allow 99% of all users to say "nope" and not have to see another million questions that aren't relevant to them. Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/