Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932436AbXBFPgN (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:36:13 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932588AbXBFPgN (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:36:13 -0500 Received: from smtp.ocgnet.org ([64.20.243.3]:34363 "EHLO smtp.ocgnet.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932436AbXBFPgM (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:36:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 00:34:13 +0900 From: Paul Mundt To: Matt Mackall Cc: David Woodhouse , Linus Torvalds , Ingo Molnar , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: [patch] MTD: fix DOC2000/2001/2001PLUS build error Message-ID: <20070206153413.GA10167@linux-sh.org> Mail-Followup-To: Paul Mundt , Matt Mackall , David Woodhouse , Linus Torvalds , Ingo Molnar , Linux Kernel Mailing List References: <20070205084523.GA21858@elte.hu> <1170682488.29759.795.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <20070205155627.GA8354@elte.hu> <1170692539.29759.856.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <20070205162635.GA755@elte.hu> <20070205163152.GA2464@elte.hu> <1170710272.29759.894.camel@pmac.infradead.org> <20070206054612.GL16722@waste.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070206054612.GL16722@waste.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1710 Lines: 39 On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 11:46:12PM -0600, Matt Mackall wrote: > I'd be happy to turn this into CONFIG_NONSTANDARD or > CONFIG_EXPERT, which is how I described it in the Kconfig help texts: > > menuconfig EMBEDDED > bool "Configure standard kernel features (for small systems)" > help > This option allows certain base kernel options and settings > to be disabled or tweaked. This is for specialized > environments which can tolerate a "non-standard" kernel. > Only use this if you really know what you are doing. > > A number of current users are indeed bogus. Stuff like: > > config SUPERH > bool > default y > select EMBEDDED > > Just because you're using a SuperH board doesn't mean you want to turn > off standard features. > The only thing bogus is the CONFIG_EMBEDDED use itself, if it were only limited to turning options off, you'd be correct, but both PCI and IDE use it for other things. We specifically wanted it for IDE in this case. I'd be quite happy to see CONFIG_EMBEDDED separated entirely from the "advanced/expert/screwing aunt tillie" selection menu, or whatever we're choosing to call it these days. Then we wouldn't have to deal with these confusing defconfigs that expose far more than most users are going to care about. There are a number of other architectures that do this too, so it may be worth separating so we can finally get rid of the confusion. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/