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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id h6si343832pfi.262.2022.01.26.13.08.20; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 13:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@ffwll.ch header.s=google header.b=KN8ygqBr; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S240645AbiAZLYT (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 26 Jan 2022 06:24:19 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:43052 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S233677AbiAZLYS (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 Jan 2022 06:24:18 -0500 Received: from mail-ot1-x331.google.com (mail-ot1-x331.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::331]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3D53C061744 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 03:24:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ot1-x331.google.com with SMTP id q19-20020a056830441300b0059a54d66106so1667535otv.0 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 03:24:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ffwll.ch; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=CCtOvzmb9/mx72Ui1G8gLBm5A9F1BJtElWdIDXeMmF0=; b=KN8ygqBrm2dd9m4JKpN0ivDz9vFAd4sM+Jo250JWFfS7Fb0jrfDxVtjeWag9YgMJzO Ai4COV/8AMUKGvKvgGkScYEDjMJiWVqqXKZyFyEl/tJxqAuJNa3cxzEaswKPlkWjpIGb F5u56sCs+46RCDVor9dn7G4nmOEvnFb1fLPmI= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=CCtOvzmb9/mx72Ui1G8gLBm5A9F1BJtElWdIDXeMmF0=; b=NxtK6/hGlCJGDzm4iLlxYyRlUgjYlJtS2kUrMm4YlGnrh/vCRJMR3n+h0WAfc9hynT 3tLc/GX1LUKYJdIffi58QpsEsxHJa/jCGTyAB+2OZnaVrAn+qfivYs3l6WYsN/OF8oye qFxWDKN4x9WvULSStCvnJ7IZUN8i1bMLNmVciIueN9uDoGFcnfjPTB8pVzX5phovzeX3 5/kjRNaXHF1xQiDF42U5fo17yMJ4T8A1ZUaDsMstXEHbfLiEc1rb+KjtJlXKYGdZ2ufd fJwd55GKnu9THuHp1c+kQp717lOniZHryZDZNQpP9Wh2NFJb8kbqz/FYUgp4gBJCrj1M vAcQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531afkfC1F/yDpqt0TzA8HzAt9XXoH50byZr8FpSLHAAHaV//4GC qrUWiTl7jfaczBBZeyHKTfe1tylCwXTMXVFue6BwHA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:2704:: with SMTP id j4mr17448609otu.323.1643196257387; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 03:24:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220125202118.63362-1-andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> <991e988b-7225-881b-a59a-33c3eae044be@suse.de> <3877516e-3db3-f732-b44f-7fe12b175226@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: From: Daniel Vetter Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 12:24:06 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/4] fbtft: Unorphan the driver for maintenance To: Javier Martinez Canillas Cc: Helge Deller , Andy Shevchenko , Thomas Zimmermann , Andy Shevchenko , linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, Michael Hennerich , Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-staging@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, Phillip Potter , Carlis , Andy Shevchenko , Lee Jones , Heiner Kallweit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 12:18 PM Javier Martinez Canillas wrote: > > On 1/26/22 11:59, Helge Deller wrote: > > On 1/26/22 11:02, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > > [snip] > > >> P.S. For the record, I will personally NAK any attempts to remove that > >> driver from the kernel. And this is another point why it's better not > >> to be under the staging. > > > > I agree. Same as for me to NAK the disabling of fbcon's acceleration > > features or even attempting to remove fbdev altogether (unless all > > relevant drivers are ported to DRM). > > > > But that will never happen if we keep moving the goal post. > > At some point new fbdev drivers should not be added anymore, otherwise > the number of existing drivers that need conversion will keep growing. And that point was about 5 years ago, and has been discussed at some plumbers meanwhile, resulting in the staging TODO patches to make these drm drivers to destage them. Fixing bugs in fbdev is all fine, reopening it for merging new drivers is not. -Daniel -- Daniel Vetter Software Engineer, Intel Corporation http://blog.ffwll.ch