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Date:   Wed, 26 Jan 2022 12:38:11 +0100
From:   Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To:     Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>
Cc:     Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>,
        Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/4] fbtft: Unorphan the driver for maintenance
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On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 12:31:21PM +0100, Helge Deller wrote:
> On 1/26/22 12:18, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
> > On 1/26/22 11:59, Helge Deller wrote:
> >> On 1/26/22 11:02, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> >>> P.S. For the record, I will personally NAK any attempts to remove that
> >>> driver from the kernel. And this is another point why it's better not
> >>> to be under the staging.
> >>
> >> I agree. Same as for me to NAK the disabling of fbcon's acceleration
> >> features or even attempting to remove fbdev altogether (unless all
> >> relevant drivers are ported to DRM).
> >>
> >
> > But that will never happen if we keep moving the goal post.
> >
> > At some point new fbdev drivers should not be added anymore, otherwise
> > the number of existing drivers that need conversion will keep growing.
> 
> Good point, and yes you are right!
> 
> I think the rule should be something like:
> 
> New graphics devices (e.g. max. 3 years old from now) usually are
> capable to be ported to DRM.
> For those graphics cards we should put a hard stop and not include them
> as new driver into the fbdev framework. Inclusion for those will only
> happen as DRM driver.

We made this rule 6 years ago already.

thanks,

greg k-h