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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/4] fbtft: Unorphan the driver for maintenance
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To:     Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
        Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>
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        Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
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From:   Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>
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On 1/26/22 12:24, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 12:18 PM Javier Martinez Canillas
> <javierm@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 1/26/22 11:59, Helge Deller wrote:
>>> On 1/26/22 11:02, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>>> P.S. For the record, I will personally NAK any attempts to remove tha=
t
>>>> driver from the kernel. And this is another point why it's better not
>>>> to be under the staging.
>>>
>>> I agree. Same as for me to NAK the disabling of fbcon's acceleration
>>> features or even attempting to remove fbdev altogether (unless all
>>> relevant drivers are ported to DRM).
>>>
>>
>> But that will never happen if we keep moving the goal post.
>>
>> At some point new fbdev drivers should not be added anymore, otherwise
>> the number of existing drivers that need conversion will keep growing.
>
> And that point was about 5 years ago, and has been discussed at some
> plumbers meanwhile, resulting in the staging TODO patches to make
> these drm drivers to destage them.
>
> Fixing bugs in fbdev is all fine, reopening it for merging new drivers i=
s not.

We are on the same page!
I'm not at all proposing to include new drivers for (relatively) new
hardware into fbdev, which is capable to be written as DRM driver.

Helge