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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i16si190072edc.401.2022.01.26.13.34.04; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 13:34:30 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.s=korg header.b=x53+f4g3; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=linuxfoundation.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S242098AbiAZOY3 (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 26 Jan 2022 09:24:29 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:57664 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S234663AbiAZOYW (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 Jan 2022 09:24:22 -0500 Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [IPv6:2604:1380:4641:c500::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8051CC06161C; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 06:24:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27E7D6177F; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 14:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A9E16C340E3; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 14:24:20 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1643207061; bh=ukl36IdEnUA37wQdeyxEyI6HSFV992E6U+2myU8xcr0=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=x53+f4g3yOT+nEU5vLNo9kHzYgdmL+LL93j9GTfssW9uKB02qk6YhiE2glb7JjNbE oXx7BzTA2BsxDQBKhLGZR/HUpBN/88l4YXinjEWziK8c2pYgq0Zl+tLeAfL1yj4vXG wGjksxAtxILDCOx7WQWcnBl0Nm4UYA3ezxBxF/EA= Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 15:24:18 +0100 From: Greg Kroah-Hartman To: Javier Martinez Canillas Cc: Andy Shevchenko , Helge Deller , Thomas Zimmermann , Andy Shevchenko , linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, Michael Hennerich , linux-staging@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, Phillip Potter , Carlis , Lee Jones , Heiner Kallweit Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/4] fbtft: Unorphan the driver for maintenance Message-ID: References: <20220125202118.63362-1-andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> <991e988b-7225-881b-a59a-33c3eae044be@suse.de> <3877516e-3db3-f732-b44f-7fe12b175226@gmx.de> <3430838d-1c63-da49-b774-c5a883e7085f@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3430838d-1c63-da49-b774-c5a883e7085f@redhat.com> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 03:18:14PM +0100, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote: > On 1/26/22 15:11, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 02:47:33PM +0100, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote: > >> On 1/26/22 14:27, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > >>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 12:18:30PM +0100, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote: > >>>> On 1/26/22 11:59, Helge Deller wrote: > >>>>> On 1/26/22 11:02, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > > > > ... > > > >>>>>> P.S. For the record, I will personally NAK any attempts to remove that > >>>>>> driver from the kernel. And this is another point why it's better not > >>>>>> to be under the staging. > >>>>> > >>>>> I agree. Same as for me to NAK the disabling of fbcon's acceleration > >>>>> features or even attempting to remove fbdev altogether (unless all > >>>>> relevant drivers are ported to DRM). > >>>> > >>>> But that will never happen if we keep moving the goal post. > >>>> > >>>> At some point new fbdev drivers should not be added anymore, otherwise > >>>> the number of existing drivers that need conversion will keep growing. > >>> > >>> This thread is not about adding a new driver. > >> > >> It was about adding a new drivers to drivers/video/ (taken from staging). > > > > Does it mean gates are open to take any new fbdev drivers to the staging? > > If not, I do not see a point here. > > > > Good question. I don't know really. > > But staging has always been more flexible in what's accepted there and > that's why some distros avoid to enable CONFIG_STAGING=y in the kernel. And that's why if you load a staging driver, it enables TAINT_CRAP in your runtime flags :)