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Date:   Thu, 27 Jan 2022 12:04:26 -0500
From:   Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] tools/memory-model: Clarify syntactic and semantic
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On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 12:00:22PM +0100, Paul Heidekr?ger wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 04:00:11PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > That's a very abstract way of describing the situation; it doesn't do a 
> > good job of getting the real idea across.  It also mixes up two separate 
> > ideas: behaviors being unaffected by a syntactic dependency and 
> > behaviors being undefined.  They should be described separately. 
> 
> Many thanks for the feedback! I agree, the explanation works a lot
> better once readers have been introduced to data, addr and ctrl
> relations. 
> 
> > I would prefer something along these lines...
> 
> Shall I resubmit the patch with you as co-developer, or, given that it's
> arguably your work now, would you like to submit the patch yourself?

I'll submit it myself, with Suggested-by: you.  How does that sound?

Alan