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[73.73.44.208]) by smtp.gmail.com with UTF8SMTPSA id q4sm7815726ilv.5.2022.01.31.09.17.32 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 31 Jan 2022 09:17:33 -0800 (PST) From: Jesse Hathaway To: ycheng@google.com Cc: davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ncardwell@google.com, pavel@denx.de, sashal@kernel.org, soheil@google.com, stable@vger.kernel.org, weiwan@google.com, jesse@mbuki-mvuki.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 5.10 099/167] tcp: disable TFO blackhole logic by default Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 11:17:32 -0600 Message-Id: <20220131171732.1018990-1-jesse@mbuki-mvuki.org> X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.34.1 In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 09:32:42 -0700 Yuchung Cheng wrote: > On the other hand maybe we do not hear middlebox issues because this > mechanism is working. So I am okay to avoid applying to stable and > keep in net-next to test this new policy. This change did indeed break our mail servers at Wikimedia, causing difficult to diagnose timeout errors on sending outgoing email. I resorted to bisecting the kernel, which resulted in finding this commit. I have verified that reverting the sysctl value for tcp_fastopen_blackhole_timeout_sec to 3600 does resolve the timeouts. Given that it is not clear how a user would discover that this sysctl has changed, or know how to fix a middle box somewhere on a path to their destination, I would love to see this change reverted. Yours kindly, Jesse Hathaway