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[209.85.219.179]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s14sm8459533qkp.79.2022.01.31.10.31.11 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 31 Jan 2022 10:31:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-yb1-f179.google.com with SMTP id c6so43286968ybk.3; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 10:31:11 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:ab0:44c:: with SMTP id 70mr9021725uav.78.1643653861178; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 10:31:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220131172450.4905-1-saeed@kernel.org> <20220131095905.08722670@hermes.local> In-Reply-To: <20220131095905.08722670@hermes.local> From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 19:30:48 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] net: kbuild: Don't default net vendor configs to y To: Stephen Hemminger Cc: Saeed Mahameed , "David S. Miller" , Jakub Kicinski , Mark Einon , Lino Sanfilippo , Maxime Ripard , Chen-Yu Tsai , Jernej Skrabec , Shay Agroskin , Arthur Kiyanovski , David Arinzon , Noam Dagan , Saeed Bishara , Chris Snook , Nicolas Ferre , Claudiu Beznea , Hans Ulli Kroll , Linus Walleij , Jeroen de Borst , Catherine Sullivan , David Awogbemila , Yisen Zhuang , Salil Mehta , Jesse Brandeburg , Tony Nguyen , "K . Y . Srinivasan" , Haiyang Zhang , Stephen Hemminger , Wei Liu , Dexuan Cui , Vladimir Oltean , Claudiu Manoil , Alexandre Belloni , Microchip Linux Driver Support , Jon Mason , Simon Horman , Rain River , Zhu Yanjun , Shannon Nelson , drivers@pensando.io, Sergey Shtylyov , Jiri Pirko , Edward Cree , Martin Habets , Maxime Coquelin , Alexandre Torgue , Jose Abreu , Andy Gospodarek , Michal Simek , Saeed Mahameed , Arnd Bergmann , Jacob Keller , Vegard Nossum , Rob Herring , l.stelmach@samsung.com, rafal@milecki.pl, Florian Fainelli , Edwin Peer , Geert Uytterhoeven , Michael Chan , Richard Cochran , Gerhard Engleder , Marcin Wojtas , Oleksij Rempel , Gabriel Somlo , Joel Stanley , Slark Xiao , Christophe Leroy , Liming Sun , David Thompson , Asmaa Mnebhi , Lars Povlsen , Horatiu Vultur , Steen Hegelund , Prabhakar Kushwaha , Omkar Kulkarni , Shai Malin , Randy Dunlap , Vignesh Raghavendra , Stefan Wahren , Gary Guo , netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev, intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org, linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org, oss-drivers@corigine.com, linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org, linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 6:59 PM Stephen Hemminger wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 09:24:50 -0800 > Saeed Mahameed wrote: > > > From: Saeed Mahameed > > > > NET_VENDOR_XYZ were defaulted to 'y' for no technical reason. > > > > Since all drivers belonging to a vendor are supposed to default to 'n', > > defaulting all vendors to 'n' shouldn't be an issue, and aligns well > > with the 'no new drivers' by default mentality. > > > > Signed-off-by: Saeed Mahameed > > This was done back when vendors were introduced in the network drivers tree. > The default of Y allowed older configurations to just work. And changing the defaults means all defconfigs must be updated first, else the user's configs will end up without drivers needed. > So there was a reason, not sure if it matters anymore. > But it seems like useless repainting to change it now. It might make sense to tune some of the defaults (i.e. change to "default y if ARCH_*") for drivers with clear platform dependencies. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds