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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id j21si11319499ejj.17.2022.02.03.01.49.55; Thu, 03 Feb 2022 01:50:20 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S236361AbiBAK0q (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 1 Feb 2022 05:26:46 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:54346 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S233767AbiBAK0n (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Feb 2022 05:26:43 -0500 Received: from wp530.webpack.hosteurope.de (wp530.webpack.hosteurope.de [IPv6:2a01:488:42:1000:50ed:8234::]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49C3EC06173B; Tue, 1 Feb 2022 02:26:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip4d144895.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de ([77.20.72.149] helo=truhe.fritz.box); authenticated by wp530.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) id 1nEqMy-0002pB-RA; Tue, 01 Feb 2022 11:26:40 +0100 From: Thorsten Leemhuis To: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds Cc: workflows@vger.kernel.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , Jonathan Corbet , Randy Dunlap , regressions@lists.linux.dev, Greg Kroah-Hartman , Lukas Bulwahn Subject: [PATCH v4 2/3] docs: regressions*rst: rules of thumb for handling regressions Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2022 11:26:38 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.31.1 In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de;linux@leemhuis.info;1643711203;661d3094; X-HE-SMSGID: 1nEqMy-0002pB-RA Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Add a section with a few rules of thumb about how quickly developers should address regressions to Documentation/process/regressions-devs.rst; additionally, add a short paragraph about this to the companion document Documentation/admin-guide/regressions-users.rst as well. The rules of thumb were written after studying the quotes from Linus found in regressions-devs.rst and especially influenced by statements like "Users are literally the _only_ thing that matters" and "without users, your program is not a program, it's a pointless piece of code that you might as well throw away". The author interpreted those in perspective to how the various Linux kernel series are maintained currently and what those practices might mean for users running into a regression on a small or big kernel update. That for example lead to the paragraph starting with "Aim to get fixes for regressions mainlined within one week after identifying the culprit, if the regression was introduced in a stable/longterm release or the devel cycle for the latest mainline release". Some might see this as pretty high bar, but on the other hand something like that is needed to not leave users out in the cold for too long -- which can quickly happen when updating to the latest stable series, as the previous one is normally stamped "End of Life" about three or four weeks after a new mainline release. This makes a lot of users switch during this timeframe. Any of them thus risk running into regressions not promptly fixed; even worse, once the previous stable series is EOLed for real, users that face a regression might be left with only three options: (1) continue running an outdated and thus potentially insecure kernel version from an abandoned stable series (2) run the kernel with the regression (3) downgrade to an earlier longterm series still supported This is better avoided, as (1) puts users and their data in danger, (2) will only be possible if it's a minor regression that doesn't interfere with booting or serious usage, and (3) might be regression itself or impossible on the particular machine, as the users might require drivers or features only introduced after the latest longterm series branched of. In the end this lead to the aforementioned "Aim to fix regression within one week" part. It's also the reason for the "Try to resolve any regressions introduced in the current development cycle before its end.". Signed-off-by: Thorsten Leemhuis CC: Linus Torvalds Acked-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman Reviewed-by: Lukas Bulwahn --- Hi! A lot of developers are doing a good job in fixing regressions in a reasonable time span, but I noticed it sometimes takes many weeks to get even simple fixes for regressions merged. Most of the time this is due to one of these factors: * it takes a long time to get the fix ready, as some developers apparently don't prioritize work on fixing regressions * fully developed fixes linger in git trees of maintainers for weeks, sometimes even without the fix being in linux-next This afaics is especially a problem for regressions introduced in mainline, but only found after a new versions was released and a new stable kernel series derived from it. Sometimes fixes for these regressions are even left lying around for weeks until the next merge window, which contributes to a huge pile of fixes getting backported to stable and longterm releases after a merge window ended. Asking developers to speed things up rarely helped, as people have different opinions on how fast regression fixes need to be developed and merged upstream. That's why it would be a great help to my work as regression tracker if we had some rough written down guidelines for handling regressions, as proposed by the patch below. I'm well aware that the text sets a pretty high bar. That's because I approached the problem primarily from the point of a user, as can be seen by the patch description. The text added by this patch likely will lead to some discussions, that's why I submit it separately from the rest of the new documents on regressions, which are found in patch 1/3; I also CCed Linus on this patch and hope he states his opinion or even ACKs is. In the end I can easily tone this down or write something totally different: that's totally fine for me, I'm mainly interested in having some expectations roughly documented to get everyone on the same page. Ciao, Thorsten --- .../admin-guide/regressions-users.rst | 12 +++ Documentation/process/regressions-devs.rst | 81 +++++++++++++++++++ 2 files changed, 93 insertions(+) diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/regressions-users.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/regressions-users.rst index d32f446e9651..78df16f113b0 100644 --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/regressions-users.rst +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/regressions-users.rst @@ -214,6 +214,18 @@ your report on the radar of these people by CCing or forwarding each report to the regressions mailing list, ideally with a "regzbot command" in your mail to get it tracked. +How quickly are regressions normally fixed? +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +Developers should fix any reported regression as quickly as possible, to provide +affected users with a solution in a timely manner and prevent more users from +running into the issue; nevertheless developers need to take enough time and +care to ensure regression fixes do not cause additional damage. + +The answer thus depends on various factors like the impact of a regression, its +age, or the Linux series in which it occurs. In the end though, most regressions +should be fixed within two weeks. + Is it a regression, if the issue can be avoided by updating some software? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ diff --git a/Documentation/process/regressions-devs.rst b/Documentation/process/regressions-devs.rst index 7eb66304a694..d59aa2c38d1f 100644 --- a/Documentation/process/regressions-devs.rst +++ b/Documentation/process/regressions-devs.rst @@ -45,6 +45,10 @@ The important bits (aka "The TL;DR") mandated by Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst and :ref:`Documentation/process/5.Posting.rst `. +#. Try to fix regressions quickly once the culprit has been identified; fixes + for most regressions should be merged within two weeks, but some need to be + resolved within two or three days. + All the details on Linux kernel regressions relevant for developers =================================================================== @@ -117,6 +121,83 @@ or others might need to look into the fix months or years later; these links are also crucial for tools and scripts like regzbot, as it allows them to associate changes with reports that were mailed or submitted to bug trackers. +Prioritize work on fixing regressions +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ + +You should fix any reported regression as quickly as possible, to provide +affected users with a solution in a timely manner and prevent more users from +running into the issue; nevertheless developers need to take enough time and +care to ensure regression fixes do not cause additional damage. + +In the end though, developers should give their best to prevent users from +running into situations where a regression leaves them only three options: "run +a kernel with a regression that seriously impacts usage", "continue running an +outdated and thus potentially insecure kernel version for more than two weeks +after a regression's culprit was identified", and "downgrade to a still +supported kernel series that lack required features". + +How to realize this depends a lot on the situation. Here are a few rules of +thumb for developers, in order or importance: + + * Prioritize work on handling regression reports and fixing regression over all + other Linux kernel work, unless the latter concerns acute security issues or + bugs causing data loss or damage. + + * Always consider reverting the culprit commits and reapplying them later + together with necessary fixes, as this might be the least dangerous and + quickest way to fix a regression. + + * Try to resolve any regressions introduced in the current development before + its end. If you fear a fix might be too risky to apply only days before a new + mainline release, let Linus decide: submit the fix separately to him as soon + as possible with the explanation of the situation. He then can make a call + and postpone the release if necessary, for example if multiple such changes + show up in his inbox. + + * Address regressions in stable, longterm, or proper mainline releases with + more urgency than regressions in mainline pre-releases. That changes after + the release of the fifth pre-release, aka "-rc5": mainline then becomes as + important, to ensure all the improvements and fixes are ideally tested + together for at least one week before Linus releases a new mainline version. + + * Fix regressions within two or three days, if they are critical for some + reason -- for example, if the issue is likely to affect many users of the + kernel series in question on all or certain architectures. Note, this + includes mainline, as issues like compile errors otherwise might prevent many + testers or continuous integration systems from testing the series. + + * Aim to merge regression fixes into mainline within one week after the culprit + was identified, if the regression was introduced in a stable/longterm release + or the development cycle for the latest mainline release (say v5.14). If + possible, try to address the issue even quicker, if the previous stable + series (v5.13.y) will be abandoned soon or already was stamped "End-of-Life" + (EOL) -- this usually happens about three to four weeks after a new mainline + release. + + * Try to fix all other regressions within two weeks after the culprit was + found. Two or three additional weeks are acceptable for performance + regressions and other issues which are annoying, but don't prevent anyone + from running Linux (unless it's an issue in the current development cycle, + as those should ideally be addressed before the release). A few weeks in + total are acceptable if a regression can only be fixed with a risky change + and at the same time is affecting only a few users; as much time is + also okay if the regression is already present in the second newest longterm + kernel series. + +Note: The aforementioned time frames for resolving regressions are meant to +include getting the fix tested, reviewed, and merged into mainline, ideally with +the fix being in linux-next for two days. + +Developers need to account for this. + +Subsystem maintainers are expected to assist in reaching those periods by doing +timely reviews and quick handling of accepted patches. They thus might have to +send git-pull requests earlier or more often than usual; depending on the fix, +it might even be acceptable to skip testing in linux-next. Especially fixes for +regressions in stable and longterm kernels need to be handled quickly, as fixes +need to be merged in mainline before they can be backported to older series. + + More aspects regarding regressions developers should be aware of ---------------------------------------------------------------- -- 2.31.1