Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751911AbXBJWXI (ORCPT ); Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:23:08 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751972AbXBJWXI (ORCPT ); Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:23:08 -0500 Received: from ogre.sisk.pl ([217.79.144.158]:35087 "EHLO ogre.sisk.pl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751911AbXBJWXH (ORCPT ); Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:23:07 -0500 From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" To: Pavel Machek Subject: Re: NAK new drivers without proper power management? Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 23:20:38 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 Cc: Arjan van de Ven , nigel@nigel.suspend2.net, LKML References: <1171058269.1484.64.camel@nigel.suspend2.net> <1171059433.8675.195.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20070210193851.GA3956@ucw.cz> In-Reply-To: <20070210193851.GA3956@ucw.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200702102320.39531.rjw@sisk.pl> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1487 Lines: 41 Hi, On Saturday, 10 February 2007 20:38, Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > > > > I don't think this is already done (feel free to correct me if I'm > > > wrong).. > > > > > > Can we start to NAK new drivers that don't have proper power management > > > implemented? There really is no excuse for writing a new driver and not > > > putting .suspend and .resume methods in anymore, is there? > > > > to a large degree, a device driver that doesn't suspend is better than > > no device driver at all, right? > > now.. if you want to make the core warn about it, that's very fair > > Well, driver that is broken on SMP is arguably better than no driver > at all, yet we'd probably avoid merging that. It would be nice to > start including suspend in 'must work' list... What about this: "If the device requires that, implement .suspend and .resume or at least define .suspend that will always return -ENOSYS (then people will know they have to unload the driver before the suspend). Similarly, if you aren't sure whether or not the device requires .suspend and .resume, define .suspend that will always return -ENOSYS." Greetings, Rafael -- If you don't have the time to read, you don't have the time or the tools to write. - Stephen King - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/