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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:52:14 +0100
From: Tilman Schmidt <tilman@imap.cc>
Organization: me - organized??
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To: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
CC: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>, nigel@nigel.suspend2.net,
       Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
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Subject: Re: NAK new drivers without proper power management?
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Am 10.02.2007 07:43 schrieb Willy Tarreau:
> On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 07:25:34PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:

>>>> On Sat, 2007-02-10 at 08:57 +1100, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
>>>>> Can we start to NAK new drivers that don't have proper power manage=
ment
>>>>> implemented?
[...]
>> Certainly we should ask for it, but it shouldn't be a merge-stopper.
>=20
> I think we should even proceed in the opposite direction : refuse to su=
spend
> if at least one driver does not support the feature, and enumerate the
> faulty drivers on the console. While I agree that a machine which resum=
es
> in a bad state is not funny at all to debug, at least when the user exp=
ects
> his notebook to suspend and sees that it refuses, he can complain about=
 the
> drivers which do not support it, and can even unload them first if unne=
eded.

I agree wholeheartedly. That's the correct way to handle this.

--=20
Tilman Schmidt                          E-Mail: tilman@imap.cc
Bonn, Germany
- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
  In practice, there is.


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