Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:31:14 -0600
From: Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: NAK new drivers without proper power management?
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To: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>, linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Nigel Cunningham <nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>
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Willy Tarreau wrote:
> Nigel, don't take it as a personal offense, but I think it is a very
> centric view of Linux usages. Where I work, Linux is used a lot on
> servers and appliances. It is used for mail relays, HTTP proxies,
> anti-viruses, firewalls, routers, load balancers, UTM, SSH relays,
> etc... Nobody would ever want to enable power management on those
> machines, let alone suspend which would cause a major havoc, would
> the system decide to enter suspend for any reason.
> 
> Many people also have Linux on their notebooks, but as a dual-boot. You
> read the word ? "dual-boot". It means that they cleanly shutdown their
> system every time they don't use it anymore, and they won't know what
> OS they'll use next time.
> 
> I've never heard anyone there complaining "oh, I'm fed up with this
> boring boot, I always have to wait 30 seconds when I need to do
> something, I wish I could suspend and resume". It is considered the
> normal way of using their PCs.

I think your experience is rather different than that of Joe Average 
User who doesn't frequent kernel lists, and also I think you'll find 
that for a lot of Linux laptop users that don't use supend, the reason 
is that it doesn't work reliably, quite often due to driver issues.

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Robert Hancock      Saskatoon, SK, Canada
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