Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:28:31 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:28:21 -0500 Received: from neon-gw-l3.transmeta.com ([63.209.4.196]:47369 "EHLO neon-gw.transmeta.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:28:15 -0500 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: "H. Peter Anvin" Subject: Re: Journaling pointless with today's hard disks? Date: 24 Nov 2001 14:28:00 -0800 Organization: Transmeta Corporation, Santa Clara CA Message-ID: <9tp6tg$mge$1@cesium.transmeta.com> In-Reply-To: <20011124103642.A32278@vega.ipal.net> <20011124184119.C12133@emma1.emma.line.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Disclaimer: Not speaking for Transmeta in any way, shape, or form. Copyright: Copyright 2001 H. Peter Anvin - All Rights Reserved Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Followup to: By author: Florian Weimer In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > > However, if it's really true that DTLA drives and their successor > > corrupt blocks (generate bad blocks) on power loss during block writes, > > these drives are crap. > > They do, even IBM admits that (on > > http://www.cooling-solutions.de/dtla-faq > > you find a quote from IBM confirming this). IBM says it's okay, you > have to expect this to happen. So much for their expertise in making > hard disks. This makes me feel rather dizzy (lots of IBM drives in > use). > No sh*t. I have always been favouring IBM drives, and I had a RAID system with these drives bought. It will be a LONG time before I buy another IBM drive, that's for sure. I can't believe they don't even have the decency of saying "we fucked". -hpa -- at work, in private! "Unix gives you enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot." http://www.zytor.com/~hpa/puzzle.txt - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/