Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932227AbXBNMaY (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:30:24 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932234AbXBNMaX (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:30:23 -0500 Received: from gprs189-60.eurotel.cz ([160.218.189.60]:34915 "EHLO amd.ucw.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932228AbXBNMaW (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:30:22 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:00:40 +0100 From: Pavel Machek To: Theodore Tso , Greg KH , Nicolas Mailhot , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Free Linux Driver Development! Message-ID: <20070214120040.GA23857@elf.ucw.cz> References: <32793.192.54.193.51.1170248792.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <20070131201258.GB15128@kroah.com> <20070131230014.GD20514@thunk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070131230014.GD20514@thunk.org> X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060126 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1722 Lines: 36 Hi! > > This kind of offer has _always_ been there for out-of-tree GPL drivers. > > I have contacted many different groups and driver authors over the years > > to offer my help in trying to get their code into the mainline kernel. > > > > Some take me up on the offer, others ignore it, and still others activly > > refuse to do so, saying they want to stay out-of-the tree (lirc is one > > of these examples...) > > I think the point is that if we are offering free development effort > to write a driver which goes into mainline, maybe we should provide > more than "providing rules and guidelines" so that people can spend > engineering $$$ to get the driver into mainline. > > More specifically, Dave said that it "seemed rude" to just take the > driver and send updates, but maybe the best way of dealing with > out-of-tree drivers like lirc is to treat the out-of-tree drivers as a > kind of spec release, and just have someone in the community forcibly > take the code, fix it up, and then get it merged. Maybe it's being > "rude", but so is not responding to requests to get it merged. So can I treat Shem's code as a spec release, and merge it? :-). [Okay, so your position is more reasonable than expected, good; but signed-off process strongly discourages merging some code without author's cooperation.] Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/