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[209.85.210.48]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y1sm17117368oad.38.2022.02.15.14.51.58 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 15 Feb 2022 14:51:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ot1-f48.google.com with SMTP id s6-20020a0568301e0600b0059ea5472c98so293981otr.11 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 14:51:58 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:755a:: with SMTP id b26mr513845otl.230.1644965517513; Tue, 15 Feb 2022 14:51:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20211001144212.v2.1.I773a08785666ebb236917b0c8e6c05e3de471e75@changeid> In-Reply-To: From: Brian Norris Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 14:51:46 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] drm/bridge: analogix_dp: Grab runtime PM reference for DP-AUX To: Doug Anderson Cc: Andrzej Hajda , Neil Armstrong , Sean Paul , Jonas Karlman , LKML , Jernej Skrabec , Laurent Pinchart , dri-devel , "open list:ARM/Rockchip SoC..." , "# 4.0+" , Tomeu Vizoso Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 1:31 PM Doug Anderson wrote: > > Hi, Hi! > On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 2:50 PM Brian Norris wrote: > > > > If the display is not enable()d, then we aren't holding a runtime PM > > reference here. Thus, it's easy to accidentally cause a hang, if user > > space is poking around at /dev/drm_dp_aux0 at the "wrong" time. > > > > Let's get the panel and PM state right before trying to talk AUX. > > diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/analogix/analogix_dp_core.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/analogix/analogix_dp_core.c > > index b7d2e4449cfa..6fc46ac93ef8 100644 > > --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/analogix/analogix_dp_core.c > > +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/analogix/analogix_dp_core.c > > @@ -1632,8 +1632,27 @@ static ssize_t analogix_dpaux_transfer(struct drm_dp_aux *aux, ... > > + pm_runtime_get_sync(dp->dev); > > + ret = analogix_dp_transfer(dp, msg); > > + pm_runtime_put(dp->dev); > > I've spent an unfortunate amount of time digging around the DP AUX bus > recently, so I can at least say that I have some experience and some > opinions here. Thanks! Experience is welcome, and opinions too sometimes ;) > IMO: > > 1. Don't power the panel on. If the panel isn't powered on then the DP > AUX transfer will timeout. Tough nuggies. Think of yourself more like > an i2c controller and of this as an i2c transfer implementation. The > i2c controller isn't in charge of powering up the i2c devices on the > bus. If userspace does an "i2c detect" on an i2c bus and some of the > devices aren't powered then they won't be found. If you try to > read/write from a powered off device that won't work either. I guess this, paired with the driver examples below (ti-sn65dsi86.c, especially, which specifically throws errors if the panel isn't on), makes some sense. It's approximately (but more verbosely) what Andrzej was recommending too, I guess. It still makes me wonder what the point of the /dev/drm_dp_aux interface is though, because it seems like you're pretty much destined to not have reliable operation through that means. Also note: I found that the AUX bus is really not working properly at all (even with this patch) in some cases due to self-refresh. Not only do we need the panel enabled, but we need to not be in self-refresh mode. Self-refresh is not currently exposed to user space, so user space has no way of knowing the panel is currently active, aside from racily inducing artificial display activity. But if we're OK with "just throw errors" or "just let stuff time out", then I guess that's not a big deal. My purpose is to avoid hanging the system, not to make /dev/drm_dp_aux useful. > 2. In theory if the DP driver can read HPD (I haven't looked through > the analogix code to see how it handles it) then you can fail an AUX > transfer right away if HPD isn't asserted instead of timing out. If > this is hard, it's probably fine to just time out though. This driver does handle HPD, but it also has overrides because apparently it doesn't work on some systems. I might see if we can leverage it, or I might just follow the bridge-enabled state (similar to ti-sn65dsi86.c's 'comms_enabled'). > 3. Do the "pm_runtime" calls, but enable "autosuspend" with something > ~1 second autosuspend delay. When using the AUX bus to read an EDID > the underlying code will call your function 16 times in quick > succession. If you're powering up and down constantly that'll be a bit > of a waste. Does this part really matter? For properly active cases, the bridge remains enabled, and it holds a runtime PM reference. For "maybe active" (your "tough nuggies" situation above), you're probably right that it's inefficient, but does it matter, when it's going to be a slow timed-out operation anyway? The AUX failure will be much slower than the PM transition. I guess I can do this anyway, but frankly, I'll just be copy/pasting stuff from other drivers, because the runtime PM documentation still confuses me, and moreso once you involve autosuspend. > For a reference, you could look at > `drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/ti-sn65dsi86.c`. Also > `drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/parade-ps8640.c` Thanks for these. They look like reasonable patterns to follow. Brian