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Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 20:49:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Andre Hedrick <andre@linuxdiskcert.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
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Subject: Re: Journaling pointless with today's hard disks?
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On 24 Nov 2001, H. Peter Anvin wrote:

> Followup to:  <tgy9kwf02c.fsf@mercury.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
> By author:    Florian Weimer <Florian.Weimer@RUS.Uni-Stuttgart.DE>
> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
> > 
> > > However, if it's really true that DTLA drives and their successor
> > > corrupt blocks (generate bad blocks) on power loss during block writes,
> > > these drives are crap.
> > 
> > They do, even IBM admits that (on
> > 
> >         http://www.cooling-solutions.de/dtla-faq
> > 
> > you find a quote from IBM confirming this).  IBM says it's okay, you
> > have to expect this to happen.  So much for their expertise in making
> > hard disks.  This makes me feel rather dizzy (lots of IBM drives in
> > use).
> > 
> 
> No sh*t.  I have always been favouring IBM drives, and I had a RAID
> system with these drives bought.  It will be a LONG time before I buy
> another IBM drive, that's for sure.  I can't believe they don't even
> have the decency of saying "we fucked".

Peter,

Remember my soon to be famous quote.
Everything about storage is a LIE, and that is the only true I stand by.

Andre Hedrick
Linux Disk Certification Project                Linux ATA Development


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