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On 1/25/22 08:24, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 1/25/22 05:09, Sven Schnelle wrote:
>>> Now the documentation states we need this super speed A<->A cable, but
>>> could you also update the documentation for usb-c ? There's a fair
>>> number of usb-c only devices out there now.
>> Stupid beginners question: Would every USB3 A-A cable work, or are the
>> debug cables special? I've read the RX/TX pairs have to be swapped, but
>> to me it looks like that's always the case?
> 
> My understanding is that the 5v line is disconnected.  Here's one cable I have:
> 
>> https://designintools.intel.com/SVT_DCI_DbC2_3_A_to_A_Debug_Cable_1_Meter_p/itpdciamam1m.htm
> 
> I think they snip that line to prevent any chance of current flowing between devices.  The cable isn't expensive, but I do remember being astounded at how much Intel charged itself for shipping it. ;)


This one works OK:
https://www.datapro.net/products/usb-3-0-super-speed-a-a-debugging-cable.html

> That said, I've also used the same cable Peter has: just a cheap A-to-A cable I had lying around.  It surely has VBUS connected, so I usually plumb it through a USB hub with a power switch.  This surely isn't the "right" way to do it, but it does seem to work in some situations.

-- 
~Randy