Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 04:20:54 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 04:20:44 -0500 Received: from weta.f00f.org ([203.167.249.89]:4249 "EHLO weta.f00f.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 04:20:38 -0500 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 22:22:14 +1300 From: Chris Wedgwood To: Andrew Morton Cc: Steve Bergman , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Disk hardware caching, performance, and journalling Message-ID: <20011125222214.C9672@weta.f00f.org> In-Reply-To: <3BFFE8A2.1010708@rueb.com> <3BFFF021.D963B467@zip.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3BFFF021.D963B467@zip.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-No-Archive: Yes Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 11:08:17AM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: In theory, yes. In my opinion, no. For ext3, at least. Caching isn't bad per-se. It's reordering which can break the journalling constraints. Some disks[1] most definately do reorder; I've actually been able to demonstrate this in some circumstances (it wasn't trivial to produce and required several attempts). --cw [1] SCSI, which we know does and will reorder writes when a barrier isn't specificed, it appears IDE drives can do the same but lack of hot-swap makes testing tedious :) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/