Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932310AbXBPNcD (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Feb 2007 08:32:03 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932313AbXBPNcD (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Feb 2007 08:32:03 -0500 Received: from caffeine.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.134.17]:54475 "EHLO caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932310AbXBPNcB (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Feb 2007 08:32:01 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 08:32:00 -0500 To: v j Cc: Arjan van de Ven , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: GPL vs non-GPL device drivers Message-ID: <20070216133200.GP7584@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> References: <9b3a62ab0702142115m4ea7d2c0m6869eb64ef3ee14e@mail.gmail.com> <9b3a62ab0702142116n4069e16cl1bc8f546f41d935@mail.gmail.com> <1171524970.12771.568.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <9b3a62ab0702150004n78763d4ei652b41c7edcd0755@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9b3a62ab0702150004n78763d4ei652b41c7edcd0755@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1932 Lines: 34 On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 12:04:26AM -0800, v j wrote: > Ok so are thousands of others who are using Linux as their OS of > choice in embedded systems. They are not doing this because they are > eager to give back back. They are doing it because Linux provides > compelling reasons for them to choose it. They could have very well > chosen VxWorks or OSE too. They chose not to, but not because they > were unwilling to be a parasite. Some people in the embedded world actually think having access to cooporating with thousands of other developers is a good thing. I like being able to ask questions and get feedback. I have contributed back some of my improvements, and the things I haven't are things I think would make the kernel's drivers worse for general case use (due to having a few bits of weirdness in our hardware), but anyone that wants the source with those changes can have it. Our older products which are running a closed source OS (well as far as the customers are concerned at least, since we have source and they don't) are eventually intended to move to linux as well. The support for the proprietary embedded OSs have in our experience been pathetic. Even when sent patches to fix bugs they don't make it in to the next release in many cases. No thanks. What keeps customers buying our products is that when there is a problem we fix it as quickly as we can using whatever resources it takes. It isn't really in having secret source code for some feature. It would be hard for a smallish company to come up with something so amazing that a larger company couldn't reimplement the same thing in a very short time if they thought it was useful. -- Len Sorensen - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/