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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id b15si277873edj.341.2022.02.23.12.09.39; Wed, 23 Feb 2022 12:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.s=korg header.b=pwFKeaou; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=linuxfoundation.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S243399AbiBWS2D (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 23 Feb 2022 13:28:03 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:33798 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S236852AbiBWS2B (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Feb 2022 13:28:01 -0500 Received: from ams.source.kernel.org (ams.source.kernel.org [IPv6:2604:1380:4601:e00::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 194B0403FD for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2022 10:27:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ams.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCADFB8214D for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2022 18:27:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0BC90C340E7; Wed, 23 Feb 2022 18:27:29 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1645640850; bh=7OgHyiPZRyJQPgoQ07b1ufg2ZdQI0FSsYZNyRANpbv8=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=pwFKeaoudRzmOwQzln5PhTGaoQDw6SzYlUxnWs+72Ng7kFBZ5IhfgJlAMpMpGzdep ymJyHwBtTTCWwQG0Dlo0fdrsjeDrRulTFaMPaxevKgt/EaWj7b1Fub/sbhbMG4rWGe ju+T0IprA3SueL8Ow57oquDPdg097RaQ33YCT51g= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2022 19:27:27 +0100 From: Greg Kroah-Hartman To: Scott Branden Cc: Desmond yan , Olof Johansson , Arnd Bergmann , bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/1] misc: bcm-vk: add kconfig for supporting viper chip Message-ID: References: <20220218200811.17136-1-desmond.yan@broadcom.com> <534605ef-aeb1-b0a2-2326-be6faba4709c@broadcom.com> <3b2ff726-7ed8-9810-8d06-078f4f1fa4d8@broadcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3b2ff726-7ed8-9810-8d06-078f4f1fa4d8@broadcom.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 09:59:48AM -0800, Scott Branden wrote: > Hi Greg, > > On 2022-02-22 23:26, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 09:14:02PM -0800, Desmond yan wrote: > > > > > > Greg, > > > > > > Please see inlined. > > > > > > On 2/22/22 09:13, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > > > A: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post > > > > Q: Were do I find info about this thing called top-posting? > > > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > > > > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > > > > A: Top-posting. > > > > Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? > > > > > > > > A: No. > > > > Q: Should I include quotations after my reply? > > > > > > > > > > > > http://daringfireball.net/2007/07/on_top > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 07:41:04AM -0800, Desmond Yan (APD) wrote: > > > > > Greg, > > > > > > > > > > This is to allow the customer to use their own driver, by default, > > > > > which is their preferred option. > > > > > > > > We do not care about out-of-tree code, and do not add Kconfig options > > > > just for that, sorry. > > > > > > > > Why not just add the out-of-tree driver here to the in-kernel code? > > > > What is preventing that from happening today? > > > > > > Using the bcm_vk driver for viper is only for proof-of-concept, and is not > > > aimed to be deployed for production. In parallel, customer is developing > > > their own production-ready driver and would probably upstream it whenever > > > the appropriate time comes. > > > > Ok, so let us not add a new config option only for one person working on > > writing their own driver. Let's just add the device id as there are > > more people than just that one person wanting to use their hardware with > > the existing drivers. > The bcm_vk driver is the official driver for Valkyrie. For Viper, the > bcm_vk driver is only for proof of concept, testing, and demonstration > purposes. For production, the new driver in development will be used. > > To support such configuration, we need to have the Viper pci id configurable > and off by default in the bcm_vk driver to allow the new production driver > to be developed against the upstream kernel and drivers. > > > > Please resubmit this without the Kconfig change and I will be glad to > > take it. > I don't understand what there would be to submit? The Viper pci id is > already upstreamed into the bcm_vk driver. The sole purpose of this patch > is to add the Kconfig option and have it off by default. Ah, I missed that it was disabling the id. That's even worse. No, sorry, not going to take this upstream. Again, we do not add changes to the kernel (and especially not Kconfig options) for out-of-tree code. You know this... thanks, greg k-h