Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1945974AbXBPQH6 (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Feb 2007 11:07:58 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1945973AbXBPQH6 (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Feb 2007 11:07:58 -0500 Received: from relay.2ka.mipt.ru ([194.85.82.65]:39455 "EHLO 2ka.mipt.ru" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1945975AbXBPQH5 (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Feb 2007 11:07:57 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:05:25 +0300 From: Evgeniy Polyakov To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Ingo Molnar , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Arjan van de Ven , Christoph Hellwig , Andrew Morton , Alan Cox , Ulrich Drepper , Zach Brown , "David S. Miller" , Benjamin LaHaise , Suparna Bhattacharya , Davide Libenzi , Thomas Gleixner Subject: Re: [patch 05/11] syslets: core code Message-ID: <20070216160525.GA21160@2ka.mipt.ru> References: <20070215133550.GA29274@2ka.mipt.ru> <20070215163704.GA32609@2ka.mipt.ru> <20070215181059.GC20997@2ka.mipt.ru> <20070215190413.GA23953@2ka.mipt.ru> <20070216085706.GA22868@2ka.mipt.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (2ka.mipt.ru [0.0.0.0]); Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:05:34 +0300 (MSK) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1534 Lines: 37 On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 07:54:22AM -0800, Linus Torvalds (torvalds@linux-foundation.org) wrote: > > Interfaces can be created and destroyed - they do not affect overall > > system design in anyway (well, if they do, something is broken). > > I'm sorry, but you've obviously never maintained any piece of software > that actually has users. Strong. But saying for others usualy tends to show own problems. > As long as you think that interfaces can change, this discussion is > pointless. That is too cool phrase to be heared - if you will make me a favour and reread what was written you will (hopefully) detect that there were no words about interfaces being changed after put into the wild - talk was only about time when system is designed and implemented, and there is time for discussion about its rough edges - if its design is good, then interface can be changed in a moment without any problem - that is what we see with syslets right now - they are designed and implemented (the formed was done several years ago), and it is time to shape its edges - like change userspace API - it is easy, but you do not (want/like to) see that. > So go away, ponder things. But my above words are too lame for self-hearing Olympus liver. Definitely. > Linus -- Evgeniy Polyakov - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/