Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 19:34:17 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 19:34:09 -0500 Received: from grip.panax.com ([63.163.40.2]:65293 "EHLO panax.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 19:33:59 -0500 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 19:31:55 -0500 From: Patrick McFarland To: J Sloan Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.16-pre1 Message-ID: <20011125193155.N238@localhost> Mail-Followup-To: J Sloan , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20011124205632.C241@localhost> <20011124211204.D241@localhost> <3C0058CF.D97D0E2B@starband.net> <20011124214114.E241@localhost> <3C006F44.201DC73F@pobox.com> <20011125165819.G238@localhost> <3C017740.FB17CD8C@pobox.com> <20011125181146.L238@localhost> <20011125192629.M238@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011125192629.M238@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.14 i686 X-Distributed: Join the Effort! http://www.distributed.net/ Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Oh, and I forgot to mention, its usually (imho) the maintainer's job to write.. *gasp* documentation. I know we all hate to do it, but someone has to. And the kernel docs are... enemic, at best. On 25-Nov-2001, Patrick McFarland wrote: > Anyhow, back to the original problem, it seems that everyone thinks you can devlope code and not have to maintain it at the same time. If linus doesnt maintain the 2.5 tree while he develops it, it will turn into an unweildly bloated mess. Now, from what I understand, linus doesnt wanna maintain the code, and thats why I think he should have someone to help him maintain the 2.5 tree while he develops it. As a project gets bigger, no matter if its the stable tree or development tree, it needs to be constantly trimmed and pruned like a real tree. > > > On 25-Nov-2001, Patrick McFarland wrote: > > I have an eepro100 in my box, but I dont use it, I dont have a network. =) > > Im actually wondering if it works. > > > > On 25-Nov-2001, J Sloan wrote: > > > Patrick McFarland wrote: > > > > > > > So your saying I should actually trust my distro to build a kernel right? > > > > > > Depends on how paranoid you are - I find the > > > red hat kernels to be a safe, if boring choice. > > > > > > > I build my own kernels, I have since day one. > > > > > > Sounds like you would have done better to use > > > the vendor suppplied kernel in this case - > > > > > > > But, heres a semi-key point, what happens to vendor patches? Do they ever get folded back into the main tree? > > > > > > Many do, some don't. > > > > > > Actual bug fixes get folded into the main tree, > > > but things like the e100 driver, the dell perc > > > raid drivers, the tux webserver, the linux > > > vertual server etc that are all in the red hat > > > kernel may never be in mainstream. > > > > > > I would sure like to see tux in main kernel, > > > since it's superior to the khttpd that's part > > > of the mainline tree. > > > > > > But things like the e100 driver I could live > > > without if eepro100 gets to the point where > > > it works just as well. > > > > > > cu > > > > > > jjs > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || unknown@panax.com > > - > > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > > > > -- > Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || unknown@panax.com > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || unknown@panax.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/