Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932836AbXBTFTx (ORCPT ); Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:19:53 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932852AbXBTFTx (ORCPT ); Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:19:53 -0500 Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.162.234]:16812 "EHLO nz-out-0506.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932836AbXBTFTw (ORCPT ); Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:19:52 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tg3cOHHJTIL9W4j1rK4NLjfeRnCfgSAqDHgxiATgybEoQFOTg+e7Fwap2XLHXGsuoe1hfoFkQT0enYOhogtAiJh4a7nbAh5q7P9iIeB0oEGfl4qC7f6Tw48yTnop2SGdJG2uZkPW6i0IsCYnwegvwY3lcLb14y++tV9mdEvSoyc= Message-ID: <9b3a62ab0702192119l1bf9a284la93c9d1f01638ca4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:19:49 -0800 From: "v j" To: davids@webmaster.com Subject: Re: GPL vs non-GPL device drivers Cc: trent.waddington@gmail.com, "Michael K. Edwards" , "Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" , "Neil Brown" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3d57814d0702191458l1021caeyaefd7775398c5f2a@mail.gmail.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2410 Lines: 51 > You are trying to cram this in a simple yes or no box, and it just doesn't > fit. There are questions nobody knows the answers to (such as what rights > you need to distribute a derivative work or whether compiling code makes a > translation). Thanks, all for the discussion. I certainly learnt a lot. I definitely expected to be flamed and roasted for posting my original message, and was not disappointed :) I do not possess all the knowledge ("legal" and technical) that people who have contributed to this discussion possess. However I will still comment from a user's perspective, which was my original point. Many companies in the embedded field still mistakenly feel (or felt until a while ago) that Linux was not right for them. That they would have to open source their code, that they would not get adequate support, and that Linux was too big and heavy to perform well in an embedded platform. People like me who were Linux Desktop junkies were actually trying to convince companies of the opposite. Now the popularity of Linux is exploding in the embedded space. Nobody talks of VxWorks and OSE anymore. It is all Linux. Perhaps it would be a worthwhile experiment to study this surge in popularity. I am not an expert, but perhaps the reason is "it works so goddamn well and has a wealth of third party FREE software". Sure its a bit of work to make it work on our platform and we don't have to Enea or Windriver to write our gripes to. But it definitely is worth it. Now it would also be worthwhile to contemplate what EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL does to this popularity. I don't know. I am just giving you my opinion. The moment companies learn of something like this, alarm bells start to go off. This is not rational. I personally have nothing against open-sourcing all software. *But*, this is not how companies think. Let's think about why Linux became so popular and strive towards keeping it that way instead of resorting to innovative ways of just confusing a lot of people. Having said this, I am committed to contribute back to the Linux community in any way I can, not withstanding my present employer. Keep up the good work guys! > DS vj. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/