Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751230AbXBUMEJ (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Feb 2007 07:04:09 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751233AbXBUMEJ (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Feb 2007 07:04:09 -0500 Received: from 81-174-11-161.f5.ngi.it ([81.174.11.161]:57994 "EHLO mail.enneenne.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751230AbXBUMEH (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Feb 2007 07:04:07 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:04:26 +0100 From: Rodolfo Giometti To: "H. Peter Anvin" Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxpps@ml.enneenne.com Message-ID: <20070221120426.GJ4641@enneenne.com> References: <20070216185230.GO8882@enneenne.com> <45DA6354.3000305@zytor.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45DA6354.3000305@zytor.com> Organization: GNU/Linux Device Drivers, Embedded Systems and Courses X-PGP-Key: gpg --keyserver keyserver.linux.it --recv-keys D25A5633 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.32.1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: giometti@enneenne.com Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] LinuxPPS: Pulse per Second support for Linux X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 (built Thu, 03 Mar 2005 10:44:12 +0100) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail.enneenne.com) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1531 Lines: 37 On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 06:56:20PM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > It's not a precondition for a file descriptor, either. There are plenty > of ioctl-only device drivers in existence. > > Furthermore, a file descriptor doesn't imply a device entry. Consider > pipe(2), for example. > > As far as the kernel is concerned, a file handle is a nice, uniform > system for providing communication between the kernel and user space. > It doesn't matter if one can read() or write() on it; it's perfectly > normal to support only a subset of the normal operations. The problem is that sometimes you cannot have a filedescriptor at all. Think about a PPS source connected with a CPU's GPIO pin. You have no filedes to use and defining one just for a PPS source or for a class of PPS sources, I think, is a non sense. RFC simply doesn't consider the fact that you can have a PPS source __without__ a filedes connected with, and a single filedes is considered __always__ connected with a single PPS source. Ciao, Rodolfo -- GNU/Linux Solutions e-mail: giometti@enneenne.com Linux Device Driver giometti@gnudd.com Embedded Systems giometti@linux.it UNIX programming phone: +39 349 2432127 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/