Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1161251AbXBUOHL (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Feb 2007 09:07:11 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1161250AbXBUOHL (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Feb 2007 09:07:11 -0500 Received: from shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net ([24.71.223.10]:20999 "EHLO pd2mo1so.prod.shaw.ca" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1161248AbXBUOHJ (ORCPT ); Wed, 21 Feb 2007 09:07:09 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:06:07 -0600 From: Robert Hancock Subject: Re: libata FUA revisited In-reply-to: <45DC04DF.8040002@gmail.com> To: Tejun Heo Cc: Jens Axboe , linux-kernel , linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, edmudama@gmail.com, Nicolas.Mailhot@LaPoste.net, Jeff Garzik , Alan Cox , Mark Lord , Ric Wheeler , Dongjun Shin , Hannes Reinecke Message-id: <45DC51CF.7090202@shaw.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <45D104F3.7040602@shaw.ca> <45D1D72D.9020509@gmail.com> <45D252CD.5010303@shaw.ca> <45D25CF2.5030508@gmail.com> <20070215180023.GA4438@kernel.dk> <45D9FE7B.60909@shaw.ca> <45DC04DF.8040002@gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1151 Lines: 27 Tejun Heo wrote: >> Aside from the issue above, as I mentioned elsewhere, lots of NCQ drives >> don't support non-NCQ FUA writes.. > > To me, using the NCQ FUA bit on such drives doesn't seem to be a good > idea. Maybe I'm just too chicken but it's not like we can gain a lot > from doing FUA at this point. Are there a lot of drives which support > NCQ but not FUA opcodes? Well, it's hard to say whether "lots" have this issue, but the ones I have in my machine, Seagate 7200.7 NCQ 160GB (ST3160827AS) and 7200.10 320GB (ST3320620AS), both support NCQ and don't support non-NCQ FUA, and those (especially the latter) seem to be very popular models. Likely Seagate didn't implement that command since they figured nobody would use that if they had NCQ.. -- Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada To email, remove "nospam" from hancockr@nospamshaw.ca Home Page: http://www.roberthancock.com/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/