Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1945972AbXBVLdk (ORCPT ); Thu, 22 Feb 2007 06:33:40 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1945974AbXBVLdk (ORCPT ); Thu, 22 Feb 2007 06:33:40 -0500 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.172]:46703 "EHLO ug-out-1314.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1945972AbXBVLdj (ORCPT ); Thu, 22 Feb 2007 06:33:39 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UzQ2cwG2vRVfO3YbWknM2DqGtiKhlEkxlJbnWw8SWhaOsQc+gpMRswJjD1fkg1mknhm7LeEbCJgIY3lFwm2Lb6rJPjWCt4A0+2S59u8ruIDZzKWg0P7qg/xw4H5HgFTQJca5dTCsOkDrWolr/9G9hsvduH8QhxSYzA6xrlCJHu4= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:33:37 +0100 From: "Francesco Pretto" To: linux-kernel , "Robert Hancock" Subject: Re: Weird hard disk noise on shutdown (bug #7674) In-Reply-To: <45DD37E9.7010303@shaw.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45DD37E9.7010303@shaw.ca> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1401 Lines: 28 2007/2/22, Robert Hancock : > > And yes, this is something we need to deal with. I don't think that > disks that use contact start-stop heads care so much, but disks that use > load-unload heads (like most laptop drives, it seems) generally quote a > much lower cycle lifetime for "emergency unloads" caused by power loss > than by normal unloads done while power is still applied. It's important > enough that in some cases, like the Compaq X1000-series laptop I have, > the BIOS appears to have a power button handler that spins down the > drive before power-down when the power button is pressed and an ACPI OS > isn't running. (Holding the button down when an ACPI OS is running just > forces the power off, then you get the clunk from the drive..) > > Windows XP (and even as far back as Windows 98) get this right, surely > we can do as well :-) > > Yes, windows XP could handle better the power button pressed event (causing the hd not to go to emergency parking, even when forced shut-down, most of the times). But regarding a normal shut-down cycle, isn't this a regression? You don't solve a regression adding a feature (IMHO). - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/