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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id j18-20020a17090686d200b006df80307fe3si1064593ejy.585.2022.03.16.10.36.53; Wed, 16 Mar 2022 10:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@google.com header.s=20210112 header.b=cNgJESNN; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=google.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1352705AbiCPADo (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 15 Mar 2022 20:03:44 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:56050 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S243304AbiCPADm (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Mar 2022 20:03:42 -0400 Received: from mail-ej1-x635.google.com (mail-ej1-x635.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::635]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 601615DA64 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2022 17:02:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ej1-x635.google.com with SMTP id qx21so848688ejb.13 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2022 17:02:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=0ZUG3daTjBSNeQ09LqP7cMF4OOdcfPX1L9Gvauwm3p4=; b=cNgJESNNXO6CVxh1c4d+IFacASUh8b8hgVKzMhf0/q+zag5BY3uZQIOsYYfoyq5v8o IhePtWh0pGptQ8qaIWEZ9Z/zv09alp3AXeFV1V4XZ2OoY8X6MAwlF5HKMjpar3uNPtFm ygSfHnZ8QD0cB6Yj7WRQ3IHzNH/l3OyZSY/3fCDCpwVIfWYy/6jA4VassSG4GsJUrTwo zXqIviTwFJiQf8MjjTwCtIREDtGBO5h4bt40DxwnQmmDI9mV99EdLYSG+eHM4Cv3gicF ZYzHFnrWPAIcDyFPZvWnIybAMgGlcum3r7hvW6j9MY0MFkON9H2SBXz5gtlzGLYN0KbE uGBA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=0ZUG3daTjBSNeQ09LqP7cMF4OOdcfPX1L9Gvauwm3p4=; b=V5ey5GhMNQLEm27Ke6EwvDekhw0rRvkDOYxyXq3+1vetf8/rCrpIJxz4eIxGyfwmAl lifsC3UbEdbPcV91c7SHuwnnc8UBJpjvgr09bTDDQ9c6Ez3kBJckUKrTeZO76zQm8Epc JSBVX0Qe11bktsQfExQYxiNMCRFamTa+eegEOrtWOS+dh4gIO+cf1+BtsoNg6j7BiWIv n1Gu6jB0ywsvs8+BLpXswYrJrpYMdRhHVjxRVDAOJw4T0zMJd4uV3L4CYp8mvQpX7zpz peA2k00r64RLMHBOMXsMV+NjLAj8A1oNXVaHoX8y/aER/76sJBBsHVmX0cqEieeePZlS fD7w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531ib1n055M7yS1eOhXbTFN0WXp6u1WIodLfsvaL4GpsH6y8azxU qMqw++89yvwti7GPD5W1hzcQ9Y0P12+/gTY0eKZUmg== X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:8692:b0:6da:866c:6355 with SMTP id qa18-20020a170907869200b006da866c6355mr25354574ejc.174.1647388947747; Tue, 15 Mar 2022 17:02:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220315172221.9522-1-bgeffon@google.com> In-Reply-To: From: Brian Geffon Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 20:01:51 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] zram: Add a huge_idle writeback mode To: Matthew Wilcox Cc: Andrew Morton , Minchan Kim , Nitin Gupta , Sergey Senozhatsky , LKML , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-17.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL,USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 1:44 PM Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 01:34:21PM -0400, Brian Geffon wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 1:28 PM Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 10:22:21AM -0700, Brian Geffon wrote: > > > > Today it's only possible to write back as a page, idle, or huge. > > > > A user might want to writeback pages which are huge and idle first > > > > as these idle pages do not require decompression and make a good > > > > first pass for writeback. > > > > > > We're moving towards having many different sizes of page in play, > > > not just PMD and PTE sizes. Is this patch actually a good idea in > > > a case where we have, eg, a 32kB anonymous page on a system with 4kB > > > pages? How should zram handle this case? What's our cut-off for > > > declaring a page to be "huge"? > > > > > > > Huge isn't a great term IMO, but it is what it is. ZRAM_HUGE is used > > to identify pages which are incompressible. Since zram is a block > > device which presents PAGE_SIZED blocks, do these new changes which > > involve many different page sizes matter as that seems orthogonal to > > the block subsystem. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding. > > Oh, so ZRAM's concept of huge is not the same as the "huge" in > "hugetlbfs" or "THP"? That's not at all confusing ... I do not disagree, but there isn't much that can be done about it at this point given the sysfs file takes an argument called "huge"