Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932861AbXBYR4f (ORCPT ); Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:56:35 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932973AbXBYR4f (ORCPT ); Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:56:35 -0500 Received: from smtpout07-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.230]:55509 "HELO smtpout07-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S932861AbXBYR4e (ORCPT ); Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:56:34 -0500 Message-ID: <45E1CDD0.5080108@seclark.us> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:56:32 -0500 From: Stephen Clark Reply-To: Stephen.Clark@seclark.us User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22smp i686; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010110 Netscape6/6.5 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pavel Machek CC: "Michael K. Edwards" , davids@webmaster.com, v j , trent.waddington@gmail.com, "Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" , Neil Brown Subject: Re: GPL vs non-GPL device drivers References: <3d57814d0702191458l1021caeyaefd7775398c5f2a@mail.gmail.com> <20070225104211.GB2045@elf.ucw.cz> In-Reply-To: <20070225104211.GB2045@elf.ucw.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2282 Lines: 61 Pavel Machek wrote: >Hi! > > > >>Actually, it's quite clear under US law what a derivative work is and >>what rights you need to distribute it, and equally clear that >>compiling code does not make a "translation" in a copyright sense. >>Read Micro Star v. Formgen -- it's good law and it's funny and >>readable. >> >>I've drafted summaries from a couple of different angles since VJ >>requested a "translation into English", and I think this is the most >>coherent (and least foaming-at-the-mouth) I've crafted yet. It was >>written as an answer to a private query to this effect: "I write a >>POP server and release it under the GPL. The Evil Linker adds some >>hooks to my code, calls those hooks (along some of the existing ones) >>from his newly developed program, and only provides recipients of the >>binaries with source code for the modified POP server. His code >>depends on, and only works with, this modified version of my POP >>server. Doesn't he have to GPL his whole product, because he's >>combined his work with mine?" >> >>This is a fundamental misconception. A <> is not a "work >> >> > >Ok, but this is not realistic. I agree that if Evil Linker only adds >two hooks "void pop_server_starting(), void pop_server_stopping()", he >can get away with that. > >But... how does situation change when Evil Linker does #include > from his >binary-only part? > >I believe situation in this case changes a lot... And that's what >embedded people are doing; I do not think they are creating their own >headers or their own inline functions where headers contain them. > Pavel > > The amount copied has to be significant. A few lines against the millions in the kernel would not be enough to be copyright infringement. -- "They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Ben Franklin) "The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases." (Thomas Jefferson) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/