Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:19:21 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:19:15 -0500 Received: from borg.org ([208.218.135.231]:47881 "HELO borg.org") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:18:59 -0500 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:18:56 -0500 From: Kent Borg To: war Cc: Mark Hahn , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Swap vs No Swap. Message-ID: <20011126151856.F20261@borg.org> In-Reply-To: <3BFD2915.D640C3CB@starband.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BFD2915.D640C3CB@starband.net>; from war@starband.net on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 11:34:29AM -0500 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 11:34:29AM -0500, war wrote: > Unworkable? > How is it unworkable for my situation? > I have 1GB of memory, even when I launch every application I can, I still have > 350MB left over! Yes, even X can't easily use up 1 GB by just launching a bunch of applications. Times have changed. It used to be that RAM was very dear and even slow and small disks of olden days were worth using to extend the RAM via a virtual memory scheme. In many cases today it is quite workable to throw more RAM at a computer than one can easily use without "cheating" (say, letting Netscape leak for a few weeks). But not all cases. Some problems are bigger than yours (big databases love RAM, some video post production loves RAM), and some machines are smaller than yours (in physical size, power usage, cost). If you use your computer in such a way that you keep hundreds of megabytes of RAM free and having swap slows you down, that is a bug about which people on this list will want hear details. If you start to use your computer more heavily so that you start to use swap, and swap slows you down, then there will be interest in how are doing that. It might be a bug, it might be an unfortunate accident of not being able to have one VM for all occasions. If you start to heavily use swap and it slows you down (when compared to having no swap), that is also a bug. Tell the world the details. -kb, the Kent whose basement server runs with only 64 MB RAM, and yet though it is always using some swap, the swap usage always seems to be a smaller number than the amount of RAM used for cache. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/