Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:32:44 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:32:35 -0500 Received: from neon-gw-l3.transmeta.com ([63.209.4.196]:17674 "EHLO neon-gw.transmeta.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:32:24 -0500 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: "H. Peter Anvin" Subject: Re: Journaling pointless with today's hard disks? Date: 26 Nov 2001 16:32:05 -0800 Organization: Transmeta Corporation, Santa Clara CA Message-ID: <9tumu5$e36$1@cesium.transmeta.com> In-Reply-To: <0111261159080F.02001@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Disclaimer: Not speaking for Transmeta in any way, shape, or form. Copyright: Copyright 2001 H. Peter Anvin - All Rights Reserved Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Followup to: By author: "Richard B. Johnson" In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > It isn't that easy! Any kind of power storage within the drive would > have to be isolated with diodes so that it doesn't try to run your > motherboard as well as the drive. This means that +5 volt logic supply > would now be 5.0 - 0.6 = 4.4 volts at the drive, well below the design > voltage. Use of a Schottky diode (0.34 volts) would help somewhat, but you > have now narrowed the normal power design-margin by 90 percent, not good. > Hardly a big deal since most logic is 3.3V these days (remember, you don't need to maintain VccIO since the bus is dead anyway). -hpa -- at work, in private! "Unix gives you enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot." http://www.zytor.com/~hpa/puzzle.txt - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/