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Rozycki" , James Jones CC: bp@alien8.de, x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Remove a.out support User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: <4c449fab-8135-5057-7d2c-7b948ce130cc@theinnocuous.com> <0b31b1d3-852d-6cab-82ae-5eecaec05679@theinnocuous.com> <202203151150.1CDB1D8DA@keescook> Message-ID: <67CF27C5-5013-4EF4-B24C-8D9EB52536FB@chromium.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RDNS_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On April 2, 2022 3:14:43 PM PDT, "Maciej W=2E Rozycki" wrote: >On Wed, 16 Mar 2022, James Jones wrote: > >> Probably getting a bit off topic, but I did spend a few hours searching >> around for any existing tools to convert a binary from a=2Eout->ELF, an= d >> trying to come up with something myself by extracting the sections with >> objdump and re-combining them into an ELF using a linker script placing >> the sections at the same locations=2E I couldn't get it working in an >> evening or two messing with it so I moved on, but I agree something lik= e >> this seems possible in theory=2E > > Chiming in late as I'm scanning outstanding mailing list traffic: if thi= s=20 >is as you say all statically linked stuff, then converting from a=2Eout t= o=20 >ELF might be as easy as: > >$ objcopy -I a=2Eout-i386-linux -O elf32-i386 a=2Eout-binary elf-binary Based on my research (and the wrapper I ended up writing), I don't think t= his is sufficient because entry point handling is different between ELF and= a=2Eout (specifically the stack layout and initial sp register value)=2E -Kees --=20 Kees Cook