Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 23:35:07 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 23:34:58 -0500 Received: from ikura.fe.dis.titech.ac.jp ([131.112.171.65]:50158 "HELO ikura.fe.dis.titech.ac.jp") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 23:34:54 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:34:50 +0900 Message-ID: From: GOTO Masanori To: ltd@cisco.com Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, ngrennan@okcforum.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Unresponiveness of 2.4.16 In-Reply-To: In your message of "Mon, 26 Nov 2001 14:44:19 -0800" <4.3.2.7.2.20011126143930.045eec28@171.69.24.15> In-Reply-To: <1006812135.1420.0.camel@cygnusx-1.okcforum.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20011126143930.045eec28@171.69.24.15> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.2.15 (More Than Words) EMIKO/1.13.9 (Euglena tripteris) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) APEL/10.2 MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 10) (Capitol Reef) (i386-debian-linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by EMIKO 1.13.9 - "Euglena tripteris") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org At Mon, 26 Nov 2001 14:44:19 -0800, Lincoln Dale wrote: > At 10:17 PM 26/11/2001 +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > > > 2.4.16 becomes very unresponsive for 30 seconds or so at a time during > > > large unarchiving of tarballs, like tar -zxf mozilla-src.tar.gz. The > > > file is about 36mb. I run top in one window, run free repeatedly in > > > >This seems to be one of the small as yet unresolved problems with the newer > >VM code in 2.4.16. I've not managed to prove its the VM or the differing > >I/O scheduling rules however. > > it is I/O scheduling. > > i have a system with a large amount of RAM. > it has both 15K RPM SCSI disks (off a symbios controller) and some bog-slow > IDE/ATA disks which the system decides to use PIO for rather than DMA. (i > don't use them for anything other than bootup so don't really care about it > deciding to use PIO..). > > a copy to/from the 15K RPM SCSI disks doesn't show any performance problems. > a copy to/from the PIO-based IDE disks has the same effect -- 20/30 seconds > of no interactiveness -- even a "vmstat 1" *stops* for 20-30 seconds while > 200+MB of buffer-cache data gets written out to disk. I guess this problem repeatly posted... Is it related with IDE chip or chipset code? I use Athlon on KT133A plus 2 IDE disks, and I'm also experiencing such problem with only 1 disk. But I don't know it's PIO-based or not. -- gotom - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/