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Krzesinski" , Ingo Molnar , Peter Zijlstra , Darren Hart , Andre Almeida , David Rientjes References: <20220318033621.626006-1-npache@redhat.com> <20220322004231.rwmnbjpq4ms6fnbi@offworld> <20220322025724.j3japdo5qocwgchz@offworld> <87bkxyaufi.ffs@tglx> <205cb301-53c1-fbb6-7dbe-2fb8b73b5701@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <205cb301-53c1-fbb6-7dbe-2fb8b73b5701@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 4/6/22 11:22, Nico Pache wrote: > > > On 3/22/22 09:17, Thomas Gleixner wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 22 2022 at 09:26, Michal Hocko wrote: >>> On Mon 21-03-22 19:57:24, Davidlohr Bueso wrote: >>>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2022, Nico Pache wrote: >>>> >>>>> We could proceed with the V3 approach; however if we are able to find a complete >>>>> solution that keeps both functionalities (Concurrent OOM Reaping & Robust Futex) >>>>> working, I dont see why we wouldnt go for it. >> >> See below. >> >>>> Because semantically killing the process is, imo, the wrong thing to do. >>> >>> I am not sure I follow. The task has been killed by the oom killer. All >>> we are discussing here is how to preserve the robust list metadata >>> stored in the memory which is normally unmapped by the oom_reaper to >>> guarantee a further progress. >>> >>> I can see we have 4 potential solutions: >>> 1) do not oom_reap oom victims with robust futex metadata in anonymous >>> memory. Easy enough but it could lead to excessive oom killing in >>> case the victim gets stuck in the kernel and cannot terminate. >>> 2) clean up robust list from the oom_reaper context. Seems tricky due to >>> #PF handling from the oom_reaper context which would need to be >>> non-blocking >>> 3) filter vmas which contain robust list. Simple check for the vma >>> range >>> 4) internally mark vmas which have to preserve the state during >>> oom_reaping. Futex code would somehow have to mark those mappings. >>> While more generic solution. I am not sure this is a practical >>> approach. >> >> And all of that is based on wishful thinking, really. Let me explain. >> >> The task::robust_list pointer is set unconditionally by NPTL for every >> thread of a process. It points to the 'list head' which is in the >> TLS. But this does not tell whether the task holds a robust futex or >> not. That's evaluated in the futex exit handling code. > > Ah, thanks for pointing that out. So yes, skipping the OOM if it contains a > robust list is not really ideal as any process with pthreads will be skipped. > > Would it be logical to change this so that we are no longer making this syscall > unconditionally? I still agree that skipping the OOM isnt very logical if we > have a better solution available. Is it set unconditionally so that users dont > have to do it dynamically when they enable the robustness? > If this is the case it may be too much of a headache to implement. > >> >> So solution #1 will prevent oom reaping completely simply because the >> pointer is set on every user space task. > Every userspace task that implements a pthread. I stand corrected... Joel just showed me that it is indeed set on every userspace task. Not entirely sure why... but Im wrong here. >> >> Solutions #2 and #3 are incomplete and just awful hacks which cure one >> particular case: A single threaded process. Why? >> >> The chosen oom reaper victim is a process, so what does it help to check >> or cleanup the robust list for _ONE_ thread? Nothing because the other >> threads can hold robust futexes and then run into the same problem. >> >> Aside of that you seem to believe that the robust list head in the TLS >> is the only part which is relevant. That's wrong. The list head is >> either NULL or points to the innermost pthread_mutex which is held by a >> task. Now look at this example: >> >> TLS:robust_list -> mutex2 -> mutex1 >> >> mutex1 is the shared one which needs to be released so that other >> processes can make progress. mutex2 is a process private one which >> resides in a different VMA. So now if you filter the robust list and >> refuse to reap the TLS VMA, what prevents the other VMA from being >> reaped? If that's reaped then mutex1 is not reachable. > > This is a interesting case... So skipping the robust_head VMA would solve > the the case were all the locks are shared which is an improvement over the > current implementation. > > We have been trying to modify our reproducer to creates the case described here, > but so far have been unsuccessful. >> >> Now vs. cleaning up the robust list from the oom reaper context. That >> should be doable with a lot of care, but the proposed patch is not even >> close to a solution. It's simply broken. >> >>> -static void futex_cleanup_begin(struct task_struct *tsk) >>> +static bool futex_cleanup_begin(struct task_struct *tsk, bool try) >>> { >>> /* >>> * Prevent various race issues against a concurrent incoming waiter >>> @@ -1055,7 +1056,12 @@ static void futex_cleanup_begin(struct task_struct *tsk) >>> * tsk->futex_exit_mutex when it observes FUTEX_STATE_EXITING in >>> * attach_to_pi_owner(). >>> */ >>> - mutex_lock(&tsk->futex_exit_mutex); >>> + if (try) { >>> + if (!mutex_trylock(&tsk->futex_exit_mutex)) >>> + return false; >>> + } else { >>> + mutex_lock(&tsk->futex_exit_mutex); >>> + } >> >> That conditional locking is disgusting. >> >>> void futex_exit_release(struct task_struct *tsk) >>> { >>> - futex_cleanup_begin(tsk); >>> + futex_cleanup_begin(tsk, false); >> >> If the task already cleaned up the robust list then this will roll back >> tsk->futex_state from FUTEX_STATE_DEAD to FUTEX_STATE_EXITING. Sigh... >> >>> + futex_cleanup(tsk); >>> + futex_cleanup_end(tsk, FUTEX_STATE_DEAD); >>> +} >>> + >>> +/* Try to perform the futex_cleanup and return true if successful. >> >> This is not a proper multi line comment. >> >> /* >> * Multi line comments look like this: >> * >> * Properly formatted. >> * >> * Don't try to use the network comment style >> * on anything outside of networking. >> */ >> >>> + * Designed to be called from the context of the OOM Reaper. >> >> Let's talk about design later. >> >>> + */ >>> +bool try_futex_exit_release(struct task_struct *tsk) >>> +{ >>> + if (!futex_cleanup_begin(tsk, true)) >>> + return false; >>> + >>> + /* We are calling this from the context of a kthread. We need to >>> + * instruct the kthread to use the address space of the given mm >>> + * so the get_user won't return -EFAULT. >> >> How is this preventing get_user() or any other operation on the tasks >> user memory to return -EFAULT? Not at all. Any user access can fail and > Without the kthread_use_mm the kthread cannot instrument on the memory and the > get_users in futex_cleanup is guaranteed to fail... I left that comment to avoid > confusion. >> return -EFAULT. Comments are there to explain things not to create >> confusion. >> >>> + */ >>> + kthread_use_mm(tsk->mm); >>> futex_cleanup(tsk); >> >> But aside of that. How is this supposed to work correctly? >> >> oom_reaper() >> oom_reap_task() >> oom_reap_task_mm() >> mmap_read_trylock(mm) <- Succeeds >> try_futex_exit_release() >> use_mm() >> futex_cleanup() >> get_user() -> #PF >> >> #PF >> if (!mmap_read_trylock(mm)) { >> >> So here the problem starts. The trylock can succeed or not, depending >> on the contention state of mm::mmap_lock. >> >> So in case the trylock fails because there is a writer waiting, then it >> runs into this: >> >> if (!user_mode(regs) && !search_exception_tables(regs->ip)) { >> .... >> return; >> } >> >> This condition evaluates to false because get_user() has an >> exception table entry. So this proceeds and does: >> >> mmap_read_lock(mm); >> >> which is a full dead lock. >> >> But even if the trylock succeeds then this runs into the full fault >> path, which is not correct either for pretty obvious reasons. >> >> I assume that's all part of the design, right? > > Yeah all of this makes the solution pretty useless in its current state. Thanks > for pointing that out in detail. > >> But the real questions here are: >> >> Why are we doing this remote reaping at all? >> >> What is the condition that a task which is killed with a fatal signal >> does not reach do_exit() and cleans up itself? >> >> If the answer is "because", then we should rather make sure that this >> gets fixed. >> >> If there is a legitimate reason why a task cannot handle a fatal signal, >> then yes the oom reaper might be necessary, but unleashing the oom >> reaper unconditionally is simply a bad idea and results in the problem >> which this is trying to paper over. >> >> The oom reaper should be the last resort IMO and not racing against the >> killed task in the first place. IOW, give the task some time to clean >> itself up and if that fails and it is truly stuck and unable to do so, >> then reap the mm. But that should be the rare case and then the stuck >> futex should be the least of our worries. >> >> Thanks, >> >> tglx > > Thanks for the review! > > Given our inability to reproduce the tls -> private mutex -> shared mutex case > we are going to continue forward with the VMA skipping, as that should at least > clear up the cases where all the locks are shared. > > Cheers, > -- Nico >