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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id w22-20020aa7cb56000000b00418c2b5bf16si8325309edt.504.2022.04.12.03.36.50; Tue, 12 Apr 2022 03:37:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@infradead.org header.s=casper.20170209 header.b=WNw2+XP6; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1345760AbiDKLiE (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 11 Apr 2022 07:38:04 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:56588 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1346054AbiDKLiD (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 Apr 2022 07:38:03 -0400 Received: from casper.infradead.org (casper.infradead.org [IPv6:2001:8b0:10b:1236::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41F57255A9 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2022 04:35:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=casper.20170209; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=r3bnlJstcdyr89MnrBaCHYI2cIl+7UQCsfgoEyyWox4=; b=WNw2+XP6tvq9vXrZKduELNOXBc XM1DMFIhvZD/It+LujIjohcSEIpGHuqB9Eg4nH3s/KDDGfshyUjt+dWktU2UhWvTOTNVCwMzzOmqu CLdn73W7MfroREngspVNvOrQwqD8ikGYoJ6gC8inCGQkufSjtn0j7nxAgbcGWXQYtBCX7qU55SS2Z xrmqvKWlBfQrZoDk6LFKFTv/1yJZAP0a1sOY36z/JYSVfya9DqxsPahYt9eEjxSC0ONFhlepMjOJh ke+QNBh4frtWBz2AW00HeYomWhjCOfJmdXjWt09Easy0svTrY+smv+7o3HBrVHSGsYJ5V3m3jdfRn 3oYjftQw==; Received: from j217100.upc-j.chello.nl ([24.132.217.100] helo=noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net) by casper.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.94.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1ndsKM-00CHdR-Jc; Mon, 11 Apr 2022 11:35:26 +0000 Received: from hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net (hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net [192.168.1.225]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DEF09300212; Mon, 11 Apr 2022 13:35:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: by hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8F75D2C7EA781; Mon, 11 Apr 2022 13:35:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2022 13:35:23 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: "Eric W. Biederman" Cc: Oleg Nesterov , Sebastian Andrzej Siewior , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ben Segall , Daniel Bristot de Oliveira , Dietmar Eggemann , Ingo Molnar , Juri Lelli , Mel Gorman , Steven Rostedt , Thomas Gleixner , Vincent Guittot Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] ptrace: fix ptrace vs tasklist_lock race on PREEMPT_RT. Message-ID: References: <20220315142944.GA22670@redhat.com> <20220405101026.GB34954@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20220405102849.GA2708@redhat.com> <20220407121340.GA2762@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> <87v8vk8q4g.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org> <20220408090908.GO2731@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> <874k332wjp.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 10:06:30PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > I'll ponder if wait_task_inactive() can simplify things.. This,.. so ptrace_check_attach(), which does ptrace_freeze_traced() already does wait_task_inactive(), but on the 'wrong' side of things. AFAICT, if we move that up, we're almost there, except that opens up a detach+attach race. That could be fixed by doing another wait_task_inactive(), but we can't due to locking :/ Let's see if I can make that work without making a mess of things. Because ensuring the task is stuck in schedule() makes the whole saved_state thing go away -- as you noted.