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[23.128.96.19]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16-20020a17090a0a9000b001c1171b611fsi15808317pjw.22.2022.04.12.16.15.55 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: softfail (google.com: domain of transitioning linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org does not designate 23.128.96.19 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.19; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@infradead.org header.s=casper.20170209 header.b=mmM2y6S6; spf=softfail (google.com: domain of transitioning linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org does not designate 23.128.96.19 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78AA52179A4; Tue, 12 Apr 2022 15:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1349466AbiDKTLD (ORCPT + 99 others); Mon, 11 Apr 2022 15:11:03 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:47450 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1349412AbiDKTLB (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 Apr 2022 15:11:01 -0400 Received: from casper.infradead.org (casper.infradead.org [IPv6:2001:8b0:10b:1236::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5248736152; Mon, 11 Apr 2022 12:08:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=casper.20170209; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=e1fwTBXjpGLJFVbGSqSy8bq2chVaIHZsuFHQZUO8y+E=; b=mmM2y6S6rZIMBTjXkY4V46NlM0 H5kyclJL/93EdWx7Zwa9CDDPoqGca8SYxp0BdNUZ4v8CCNUA9UAvFXNgS6FE22UO+nXuxfcCyzxa6 UJeLsjlNW2tgw6U745WHagYGxBFWwKenSW7WYS1DaID+825/M+lQ5Tg/XpTwDYyJRDujcDqcUGbRP P3R3ZotqUwp3eoZPX1KgB8vRrCkHohmK3+VMa8ZmG44pp7W9l+I6Rfu6W0YI1DVW7b7HZL2dJ1vf1 wyCT2pu99/McoU6vEd7DL7rA14VRz4niYl+IQat9J7XlEDRAYdLD8S3ID5AuSHaZDPKozB6PG2Nba AMH9lpEQ==; Received: from willy by casper.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.94.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1ndzOK-00Cart-EG; Mon, 11 Apr 2022 19:08:00 +0000 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2022 20:08:00 +0100 From: Matthew Wilcox To: Dave Hansen Cc: Khalid Aziz , akpm@linux-foundation.org, aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com, arnd@arndb.de, 21cnbao@gmail.com, corbet@lwn.net, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, david@redhat.com, ebiederm@xmission.com, hagen@jauu.net, jack@suse.cz, keescook@chromium.org, kirill@shutemov.name, kucharsk@gmail.com, linkinjeon@kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, longpeng2@huawei.com, luto@kernel.org, markhemm@googlemail.com, pcc@google.com, rppt@kernel.org, sieberf@amazon.com, sjpark@amazon.de, surenb@google.com, tst@schoebel-theuer.de, yzaikin@google.com Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 00/14] Add support for shared PTEs across processes Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RDNS_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 11:51:46AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote: > On 4/11/22 10:37, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > Another argument that MM developers find compelling is that we can reduce > > some of the complexity in hugetlbfs where it has the ability to share > > page tables between processes. > > When could this complexity reduction actually happen in practice? Can > this mshare thingy be somehow dropped in underneath the existing > hugetlbfs implementation? Or would userspace need to change? Userspace needs to opt in to mshare, so there's going to be a transition period where we still need hugetlbfs to still support it, but I have the impression that the users that need page table sharing are pretty specialised and we'll be able to find them all before disabling it. I don't think we can make it transparent to userspace, but I'll noodle on that a bit.