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Peter Anvin" , Tony Luck , Andi Kleen , Pawan Gupta , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Borislav Petkov , Neelima Krishnan , "kvm @ vger . kernel . org" References: <20220411180131.5054-1-jon@nutanix.com> <41a3ca80-d3e2-47d2-8f1c-9235c55de8d1@intel.com> <1767A554-CC0A-412D-B70C-12DF0AF4C690@nutanix.com> From: Dave Hansen Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/tsx: fix KVM guest live migration for tsx=on In-Reply-To: <1767A554-CC0A-412D-B70C-12DF0AF4C690@nutanix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A,RDNS_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 4/12/22 06:36, Jon Kohler wrote: > So my theory here is to extend the logical effort of the microcode driven > automatic disablement as well as the tsx=auto automatic disablement and > have tsx=on force abort all transactions on X86_BUG_TAA SKUs, but leave > the CPU features enumerated to maintain live migration. > > This would still leave TSX totally good on Ice Lake / non-buggy systems. > > If it would help, I'm working up an RFC patch, and we could discuss there? Sure. But, it sounds like you really want a new tdx=something rather than to muck with tsx=on behavior. Surely someone else will come along and complain that we broke their TDX setup if we change its behavior. Maybe you should just pay the one-time cost and move your whole fleet over to tsx=off if you truly believe nobody is using it.