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X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Sat, 08 Feb 2020 21:53:50 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on in02.mta.xmission.com) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Peter Zijlstra writes: > On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 10:06:30PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > >> I'll ponder if wait_task_inactive() can simplify things.. > > This,.. so ptrace_check_attach(), which does ptrace_freeze_traced() > already does wait_task_inactive(), but on the 'wrong' side of things. > > AFAICT, if we move that up, we're almost there, except that opens up a > detach+attach race. That could be fixed by doing another > wait_task_inactive(), but we can't due to locking :/ > > Let's see if I can make that work without making a mess of things. > Because ensuring the task is stuck in schedule() makes the whole > saved_state thing go away -- as you noted. The code can perhaps synchronize on a bit using the the full locking and then drop the locks and call the wait_task_inactive or whatever. The challenge as I see it is after the traced task is inactive to allow "wake_up_state(t, TASK_WAKEKILL)" on the traced task, have the traced tasks state change to TASK_RUNNING and not allow the traced task to run until what is today ptrace_unfreeze_task is called. I just don't know how to get something stuck and not allow it to run. Eric