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From:   "Fabio M. De Francesco" <fmdefrancesco@gmail.com>
To:     Alison Schofield <alison.schofield@intel.com>
Cc:     Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] staging: Remove the drivers for the Unisys s-Par
Date:   Wed, 13 Apr 2022 22:25:30 +0200
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In-Reply-To: <20220413193152.GA1242449@alison-desk>
References: <20220412215901.31046-1-fmdefrancesco@gmail.com> <7390243.EvYhyI6sBW@leap> <20220413193152.GA1242449@alison-desk>
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On mercoled? 13 aprile 2022 21:31:52 CEST Alison Schofield wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 11:57:20AM -0700, Fabio M. De Francesco wrote:
> > On mercoled? 13 aprile 2022 17:38:24 CEST Alison Schofield wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 09:35:53AM +0200, Fabio M. De Francesco 
wrote:
> > > > On mercoled? 13 aprile 2022 08:52:47 CEST Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 11:59:01PM +0200, Fabio M. De Francesco 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > The Unisys sub-tree contains three drivers for the "Unisys 
Secure 
> > > > Partition"
> > > > > > (s-Par(R)): visorhba, visorinput, visornic.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > They have no maintainers, in fact the only one that is listed 
in 
> > > > MAINTAINERS
> > > > > > has an unreacheable email address. During 2021 and 2022 several 
> > patches 
> > > > have
> > > > > > been submitted to these drivers but nobody at Unisys cared of 
> > reviewing 
> > > > the
> > > > > > changes. Probably, also the "sparmaintainer" internal list of 
> > > > unisys.com is
> > > > > > not anymore read by interested Unisys' engineers.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Therefore, remove the ./unisys subdirectory of staging and 
delete 
> > the 
> > > > related
> > > > > > entries in the MAINTAINERS, Kconfig, Makefile files.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Suggested-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Fabio M. De Francesco <fmdefrancesco@gmail.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  MAINTAINERS                                   |    8 -
> > > > > 
> > > > > You forgot to at least cc: the people/list on the MAINTAINERS 
entry 
> > that
> > > > > you are removing here, to give them a hint that this is happening 
in
> > > > > case they want to speak up here (and to give us the ability to 
point 
> > to
> > > > > that years later when they complain they were never notified...)
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, this is a good idea. I'll submit a v2 and add two "Cc:" lines, 
one 
> > to 
> > > > David Kershner and the other to the "sparmaintainer" list at 
> > unisys.com.
> > > 
> > > There is another contact in the TODO file (last updated 2015 though 
;))
> > > Ken Cox <jkc@redhat.com>
> > 
> > Hi Alison, Greg,
> > 
> > Thank you very much for noticing that other contact :) 
> > 
> > In the last 12 months I have sent several patches for Unisys s-Par 
drivers 
> > but I never noticed that other contact simply because I only ever use 
> > scripts / get_maintainer.pl to find out who and to which lists to send 
my 
> > works.
> > 
> > @Greg: 
> > 
> > Do you think that we should care of a contact that is no more active 
since 
> > 2015 and resubmit a v3 with one more "Cc:" line? I have no problems to 
> > resubmit, I just want to be sure that this is the right thing to do.
> 
> I didn't see a v2, so confused about a v3. You could simply do a group
> reply and add the contact, that'll put a trail in lore. Not my call.
> Guessing Greg has a protocol for such removals. 

Hi Alison,

The patch v2 is at https://lore.kernel.org/outreachy/
20220413080111.13861-1-fmdefrancesco@gmail.com/T/#u

Greg required me to send that v2 because I forgot to Cc the David Kershner  
and the Unisys internal list. 

I don't yet know if Greg's protocol for such removals requires to Cc random 
people taken from a TODO file, people who didn't even care to add 
themselves to MAINTAINERS, but I'm pretty sure that, if it is so, the only 
option is to send a v3.

In order to make things as Greg requires, I'd better wait for him to 
respond to my previous email.

Again, thanks,

Fabio