Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755291AbXEDPK5 (ORCPT ); Fri, 4 May 2007 11:10:57 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755415AbXEDPK5 (ORCPT ); Fri, 4 May 2007 11:10:57 -0400 Received: from smtp-outbound-1.vmware.com ([65.113.40.141]:51666 "EHLO smtp-outbound-1.vmware.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755291AbXEDPK4 (ORCPT ); Fri, 4 May 2007 11:10:56 -0400 Message-ID: <463B4C5C.1000507@vmware.com> Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 08:08:12 -0700 From: Zachary Amsden User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Eric W. Biederman" CC: Petr Vandrovec , nigel@nigel.suspend2.net, Arjan van de Ven , LKML Subject: Re: VMware, x86_64 and 2.6.21. References: <1177998147.8981.16.camel@nigel.suspend2.net> <1178031475.3448.0.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1178032456.13953.12.camel@nigel.suspend2.net> <46385A18.30804@vmware.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2794 Lines: 57 Eric W. Biederman wrote: > I don't even want to think about how a kernel module gets far enough > into the kernel to be affected by our vector layout. These are internal > implementation details, without anything exported to modules. > > Can I please see the source of the code in vmware that is doing this? > Sorry, that code is not part of the kernel or any kernel module. It is part of a fixed set of assumptions about the platform coded in the hypervisor, which is not open source. This code runs completely outside the scope of Linux, and uses a platform dependent set of IDT software vectors which are known not to collide with IDT IRQ vectors. We use these software vectors for internal purposes; they are never visible to any Linux software, but are handled and trapped by the hypervisor. Nevertheless, since we must distinguish between software IRQs and hardware IRQs, we must find vectors that do not collide with the set of hardware IRQs or processor exceptions. To avoid this dependence on fixed assumtions about vector layout, what is needed is a mechanism to reserve and allocate software IDT vectors. It may be a GPL'd interface; it certainly is interfacing with the kernel at a low-level. An interface that would likely looking something like: int idt_allocate_swirq(int best_irq); void idt_release_swirq(int irq); int __init idt_reserve_irqs(int count); void idt_set_swirq_handler (int irq, int is_user, void (*handle)(struct pt_regs *regs, unsigned long error_code)); EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(idt_allocate_swirq); EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(idt_release_swirq); EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(idt_set_swirq_handler); Now you can set aside a fixed number of IRQs to be used for software IRQs at boot time, and allocate them as required. You can even create software IRQs which can be handled by userspace applications, or reserve software IRQs for other uses - from within the kernel itself, or from outside any kernel context (for example an IPI invoked from a non-kernel CPU). There are cases where this would be a useful feature for us; being able to issue IPIs directly to a hypervisor mode CPU would be a significant speedup (alternatively, having a kernel module handle the IPI when the CPU is in kernel mode and schedule the vmx process to run and forward the IPI). The thought of running non-kernel code in ring-0 on some CPU is scary, certainly. Nevertheless it is required for running a hypervisor which does not live in the kernel address space and must handle its own page faults and other exceptions. Zach - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/