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From:   Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>
Date:   Wed, 20 Apr 2022 13:33:14 +0800
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 0/3] riscv: atomic: Optimize AMO instructions usage
To:     Dan Lustig <dlustig@nvidia.com>
Cc:     Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
        Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>,
        "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
        Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
        Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
        linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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        Guo Ren <guoren@linux.alibaba.com>
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Thx Dan,

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 1:12 AM Dan Lustig <dlustig@nvidia.com> wrote:
>
> On 4/17/2022 12:51 AM, Guo Ren wrote:
> > Hi Boqun & Andrea,
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 10:26 AM Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 12:49:44AM +0800, Guo Ren wrote:
> >> [...]
> >>>
> >>> If both the aq and rl bits are set, the atomic memory operation is
> >>> sequentially consistent and cannot be observed to happen before any
> >>> earlier memory operations or after any later memory operations in the
> >>> same RISC-V hart and to the same address domain.
> >>>                 "0:     lr.w     %[p],  %[c]\n"
> >>>                 "       sub      %[rc], %[p], %[o]\n"
> >>>                 "       bltz     %[rc], 1f\n".
> >>> -               "       sc.w.rl  %[rc], %[rc], %[c]\n"
> >>> +               "       sc.w.aqrl %[rc], %[rc], %[c]\n"
> >>>                 "       bnez     %[rc], 0b\n"
> >>> -               "       fence    rw, rw\n"
> >>>                 "1:\n"
> >>> So .rl + fence rw, rw is over constraints, only using sc.w.aqrl is more proper.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Can .aqrl order memory accesses before and after it (not against itself,
> >> against each other), i.e. act as a full memory barrier? For example, can
> > From the RVWMO spec description, the .aqrl annotation appends the same
> > effect with "fence rw, rw" to the AMO instruction, so it's RCsc.
> >
> > Not only .aqrl, and I think the below also could be an RCsc when
> > sc.w.aq is executed:
> > A: Pre-Access
> > B: lr.w.rl ADDR-0
> > ...
> > C: sc.w.aq ADDR-0
> > D: Post-Acess
> > Because sc.w.aq has overlap address & data dependency on lr.w.rl, the
> > global memory order should be A->B->C->D when sc.w.aq is executed. For
> > the amoswap
>
> These opcodes aren't actually meaningful, unfortunately.
>
> Quoting the ISA manual chapter 10.2: "Software should not set the rl bit
> on an LR instruction unless the aq bit is also set, nor should software
> set the aq bit on an SC instruction unless the rl bit is also set."
1. Oh, I've missed the behind half of the ISA manual. But why can't we
utilize lr.rl & sc.aq in software programming to guarantee the
sequence?

2. Using .aqrl to replace the fence rw, rw is okay to ISA manual,
right? And reducing a fence instruction to gain better performance:
                "0:     lr.w     %[p],  %[c]\n"
                 "       sub      %[rc], %[p], %[o]\n"
                 "       bltz     %[rc], 1f\n".
 -               "       sc.w.rl  %[rc], %[rc], %[c]\n"
 +              "       sc.w.aqrl %[rc], %[rc], %[c]\n"
                 "       bnez     %[rc], 0b\n"
 -               "       fence    rw, rw\n"

>
> Dan
>
> > The purpose of the whole patchset is to reduce the usage of
> > independent fence rw, rw instructions, and maximize the usage of the
> > .aq/.rl/.aqrl aonntation of RISC-V.
> >
> >                 __asm__ __volatile__ (                                  \
> >                         "0:     lr.w %0, %2\n"                          \
> >                         "       bne  %0, %z3, 1f\n"                     \
> >                         "       sc.w.rl %1, %z4, %2\n"                  \
> >                         "       bnez %1, 0b\n"                          \
> >                         "       fence rw, rw\n"                         \
> >                         "1:\n"                                          \
> >
> >> we end up with u == 1, v == 1, r1 on P0 is 0 and r1 on P1 is 0, for the
> >> following litmus test?
> >>
> >>     C lr-sc-aqrl-pair-vs-full-barrier
> >>
> >>     {}
> >>
> >>     P0(int *x, int *y, atomic_t *u)
> >>     {
> >>             int r0;
> >>             int r1;
> >>
> >>             WRITE_ONCE(*x, 1);
> >>             r0 = atomic_cmpxchg(u, 0, 1);
> >>             r1 = READ_ONCE(*y);
> >>     }
> >>
> >>     P1(int *x, int *y, atomic_t *v)
> >>     {
> >>             int r0;
> >>             int r1;
> >>
> >>             WRITE_ONCE(*y, 1);
> >>             r0 = atomic_cmpxchg(v, 0, 1);
> >>             r1 = READ_ONCE(*x);
> >>     }
> >>
> >>     exists (u=1 /\ v=1 /\ 0:r1=0 /\ 1:r1=0)
> > I think my patchset won't affect the above sequence guarantee. Current
> > RISC-V implementation only gives RCsc when the original value is the
> > same at least once. So I prefer RISC-V cmpxchg should be:
> >
> >
> > -                       "0:     lr.w %0, %2\n"                          \
> > +                      "0:     lr.w.rl %0, %2\n"                          \
> >                         "       bne  %0, %z3, 1f\n"                     \
> >                         "       sc.w.rl %1, %z4, %2\n"                  \
> >                         "       bnez %1, 0b\n"                          \
> > -                       "       fence rw, rw\n"                         \
> >                         "1:\n"                                          \
> > +                        "       fence w, rw\n"                    \
> >
> > To give an unconditional RSsc for atomic_cmpxchg.
> >
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Boqun
> >
> >
> >


-- 
Best Regards
 Guo Ren

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