Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:11:38 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:11:29 -0500 Received: from tmr-02.dsl.thebiz.net ([216.238.38.204]:9480 "EHLO gatekeeper.tmr.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:11:16 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:04:52 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Davidsen To: Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Journaling pointless with today's hard disks? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Steve Brueggeman wrote: > 2) At device initialization, and after device resets, force > write-cache to be disabled. (not very nice to those that would rather > have write cache enabled... poor souls) > > 3) Set the Force Unit Access bit for all write commands. (again, not > very nice to those poor souls that would rather have write cache > enabled) I don't have a problem with setting things to "most likely to succeed" values, and (2) fits that. Those who really want w/c can enable in rc.local. However, practice (3) is something I would associate with other operating systems which believe that the computer knows best. You may personally believe that you will trade any amount of performance for a slight increase in reliability, but other may want to take the risk of losing data and have the computer fast enough to do their work. I don't think it's remotely Linux policy to do things like that, and I certainly hope it doesn't happen. Both decent disk drives and UPS systems are available, and having been in the position of having systems which can't quite keep up with the load, I want the option of doing what seems best. We have gotten along for years without doing something to force bypass of w/c, it seems that hdparm is up to continuing to allow people to make their own choices. -- bill davidsen CTO, TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/