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To: Masahiro Yamada Cc: Florian Weimer , Arnd Bergmann , "Jose E. Marchesi" , linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org, clang-built-linux , LKML Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-17.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_MED, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL,USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 9:45 PM Masahiro Yamada wrote: > > Hello Nick, > > Sorry for the late reply. > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 2:48 AM Nick Desaulniers > wrote: > > > > Hi Florian, Arnd, and Masahiro, > > Jose and I are currently in the planning process to put together a > > Kernel+Toolchain microconference track at Linux Plumbers Conference > > this year (Sept 12-14) in Dublin, Ireland. > > > > Would you all be interested in a session (if you're planning on > > attending) discussing syscall wrapping for libc's and UAPI circular > > dependency on the libc? > > > > Masahiro and I were recently discussing the feasibility of building > > the kernel UAPI header tests with -nostdinc, but there are some > > interesting complications perhaps worth sharing with others? > > -- > > Thanks, > > ~Nick Desaulniers > > > I am not sure about the travel at the moment. Bummer. > I may be able to attend it remotely if the the plumbers is held as a > hybrid conference. I think it will be. https://lore.kernel.org/llvm/3119c35ba1fa7247e87d7acb56e85ea99092d0a4.camel@HansenPartnership.com/ > I am not quite sure how many developers would be interested in this topic, > but we can continue discussion in the ML as well. Ok, based on the feedback, we will scrap the idea for the topic. I will follow up with the UAPI discussions on the list. -- Thanks, ~Nick Desaulniers